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 *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-

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Battledroidlover
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PostSubject: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 6:01 am

Once again binary has lagged server and sebb saw it too here screenies: [img][/img]

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And this time many people got lagged out too -___- can someone act now instead of just saying "we will take this into consideration -_-"
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 6:10 am

that's strange, wicked isn't binary ...

EDIT : i got confirmation, it's him.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 6:21 am

It was binary, i didnt banned him because i had a talk with xaso to be nice to him, so i talked about it to him..

He said that cibbicom started the lame, and battledroidlover and sumo said the same to me.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 7:32 am

Even though he was provoked, he shouldn't of had this reaction. Maybe if someone could talk to him?

I don't suggest punishment, for he is doing the same thing I did (which you all remember), but action does need to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 8:24 am

binary stays binary.

he isnt lagging the server because he is evil and wants to harm us.
he is taking revenge. because cibbicom and others are breaking his view of a codex of respect. so he breaks it back. and he feels in right.
and he has a point. he isnt stuck to fair play and respectfullness and all these like SoL is. so he is especially upset when those guys, who actually should be all that, are acting like idiots to him.
and cibbicom is acting like an idiot to many ppl.
so if cibbicom lames or provokes, he gets kicked in the ass. revenge 1. Lesson 1.
If he cries or whines, he get insulted and hunted. revenge 2. lesson 2.
if he insults back and abuse (tele for example), he gets lagged. revenge 3. lesson 3.

binary is actually following a string of measures, just like we do. only that he is using them to make you FEEL ur errors. and we try to make them UNERSTAND.
however:
if we dont want, that binary lags, insults or lames, we have a couple of chances to make him stop. so if cibbicom wouldnt be such deaf to what anybody tells him, and so revenging having such a big respectseeking ego, then there wouldnt be a problem at all.
in fact cibbicom has a fault at all this shit happening. he isnt guilty for lagging the server. but he is guilty for making everyone upset, so that they lag the server.
and even if binary starts to lame, which is no rulebreak for him: its a game, you fight... period. so if he starts, he kind of stays in right, because we are the ones who intend to NOT fight back inappropiately. but cibbicom is doing it.

i think you all got what i mean. it is in our hand to make him stop.
and this isnt counting for binary only. its counting for nearly all of those lamers, who still have a brain, and are not playing just to be a badass, like boss or sanyo...
and another thing: cibbicom is not the only one who makes the situation escalate... he is only doing it constantly. even others... (lately pipsquit, hora and sebbat) make ppl lag the server... or generally make them freak out.

just keep in mind: if we would fully stick to our rules, there would be no problem: they lame, so they get banned after warnings. but as soon as we fight back in such inappropiate way, it just screws our possibilities and makes us ridiculous.
if there is a lamer, ask an admin per PM to handle it. (no cr ying "LAMER")
or fight him... dont talk, fight.
or ignore it.
ez

btw. in this special cibbicom <-> binary case, i will stick to binary.
i can talk to binary, he listens to me and he discusses. arguments and stuff. compromices...
but cibbicom cant be talked to. he ignores me. he gets me wrong. he takes no tips. regardless of what i say or try.
i say now: if i am on the server and i see the situation escalate, i will have to finally ban cibbicom and not binary.

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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 9:52 am

lol nice testament xaso xD .

Despite what you said, you think (at least that I understood) that cibbicom is the creator of the alleged behavior of binary (and also pip Sebba and me).
Cibbicom is a big nuisance for everyone, but also binary is a child. The first time I saw him after his questionnaire on to what I wanted, Laming anywhere and was very irritating, since that entonses ami I began to fall, if he knows the rules because they do not respect them!?. Most complain of such person by their behavior, also has had several post Due to their actions. I do not think that is so well tenerle Compassion, and that one day send a large and hurt everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 9:57 am

yes, binary is also very harsh and overreacting. in our eyes he oversteps the borders. and i am convinced he really does.
that is one mistake his codex has: it is really vulnerable to misunderstandings. and it was a misunderstanding which started the feud between you both. and he was really thick headed. (but you as well could have acted more desescalating... but at least you were not purposly provoking)

but in the end i could talk to binary and there was kind of freedom between you both, until the conflict started over again, some days ago.
but it would have started anyway, even if you werent there hora.
so this is something we have to attest binary: he can listen, he can discuss and he can control himself. he only needs good reasons and a mediator.

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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:10 am

Xasomur wrote:
(but you as well could have acted more desescalating... but at least you were not purposly provoking).

I understand you, me and made mistakes, But the person who started to provoke was binary with their actions.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:14 am

indeed.
but there wouldnt have been any problem if you euther ignored him, or pm'd an admin... or directly me... i have a connection to him ^^
anyways...
as long as the 2 ppl fighting have a brain, like you and binary, everything can be solved ^^

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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:24 am

and instantly banning Binary wouldn't solve it...
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:25 am

Sharap grimlore lol
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 10:42 am

Grimlore wrote:
and instantly banning Binary wouldn't solve it...

lol he is right
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:52 am

Binary can change all his ip, so the ban doesnt worked at all ^^
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 4:19 pm

There's a limit to the amount of full IP changes most people can do. Eventually they tend to start receiving some of the same IP address ranges.

As for as Cibbicom and binarY, both of them need to change their behavior. Xaso has explained the situation accurately, but I'd like to add that binarY's lagging is not acceptable. He should be being banned for it, because it doesn't matter the circumstances, lagging is just not acceptable. Someone needs to tell him that, tell him that it's nothing personal but lagging results in a ban, and then start banning him if he does it. Let him talk about it on the forums if necessary, but it's hypocritical not to ban him, regardless of what "provoked" him. Let him do something else to get his frustration out, like laming. But not lagging.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 6:53 pm

And he used a hack so that when he changed name he would change name to one of the people on the server AND theyre skin AND theyre saber....doing it rpetivly to make the lag even worse I got lagged out several times...so did others.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Thu 15 Apr 2010, 11:54 pm

He's gets pissed at people easily, and because of few people (you know who I'm talking about-. -) provoking him the last time he was on, he's even more pissed. Congratulations for bringing this upon yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 7:33 am

well
if ppl tele run pming me with some bad words ganging emot's WORST EMOTE using that stuff i hate if that happens you die for sure


that what realy make's me piss off and that stuff happens alot
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 7:15 pm

Even if you get angry at some people :/ then you shoul'dnt just burst out like that and lag the ENTIRE server which will lag out people who hav'nt rebuked you....and when they reconnect they WILL rebuke you because you lagged them out.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 7:18 pm

thats the only way he can show u guys that he gets pissed off, first, i really think teleport makes this game a lame game, we cant play fair, at least u solved the lightning problem, but teleporting is such a n.o.o.b shit that u should disable and its pissing me off too, emotes r also damn annoying, thought it was disabled, but still, it really pisses me off.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 9:04 pm

Our server is not primarily about fighting. It's about having fun. To me, that's what the whole game of JK2 is about. It's unique because you can mess around and have freedom of movement unlike other games. If you want to fight people fairly, challenge them to a duel. If you want to FFA, fight people who are good who won't run away. You'll find that if you fight people when they actually agree to fight you, they will rarely run away. But when you're trying to exact revenge or lame someone who angers you, they'll often feel they have the right to run with whatever means they desire. If you don't want to fight people when they agree to fight, this probably isn't the server for you. Now if someone lames or insults you first, that's different. If they are abusing things to get away from retribution, ask an admin to step in if possible. If that's not an option, ignore them or beat them at their own game.

I almost never have a problem with the things you guys are complaining about, which tells me that there is something different about your playstyle compared to mine that is causing you problems on our server. Teleport is very useful when used appropriately, and if everyone is being nice to each other it is almost exclusively used in this appropriate manner. Pick your battles honorably and your foe will usually do the same.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 9:56 pm

hmm a good argument, nick , but nasty is right. emotes should be deactivated.

if you see how people easily abuse with this. look at the example with ats. it s the worst, what i ve ever seen in my life...

#they make me teleporting to the admin guy while he has emote kill on
#they use silence to me to avoid teleporting
#they rob me all of the force to get me
#they use empower to kill me

i hope you wont do the same like they do...
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Fri 16 Apr 2010, 10:15 pm

emotes arent admin commands xD

and emotes ARE disabled... most of time... (there is an admin command to enable or disable Smile )

and to the admin abuse:
the admins of sol dont use the admin commands to make anyone down, or to defeat him.
so we wont use empower to kill you.
and they wont play with you, just to amexplode you.

but if you lame hard and insult hard... OR FAKE SOMEONE Razz they will use appropiate commands.
so if you fake someone your namechange gets banned and you get renamed (if you dont want to listen to a warning)
if you run all the time, while you lame and annoy ppl, they will silence you to avoid teleporting. but they wont use that, to kill you. (you will have a warning at least, before they do that)
and if you forcespam, so push, pull or grip, they will warn you, or ban ur force. but they wont do it to kill you.
and generally: if you lame hard, and you already got warnings, or you are jsut too occupied with laming, so that you cant listen, they will sleep you, amget you and try to talk to you, to cool you down and give you an ultimatum. if you wont stay there, and tele away all the time, they will amsilence you. if you abuse engageduel to kick the admin away, you will get freezed. but know this: the sol admins arent doing anything, just to kill you or annoy you. they are using the admins commands to ensure the server rules. and it contains respectful playing. so if you are disrespectful admins will warn you and use admin commands finally to take you the possibilities to be disrespectful. if nothing helps, you will get banned.

but the admin usage in sol, is not about making anyone down. in opposite.

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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 8:50 am

sorry xasomur, but sebbat does that sometimes on me, or he gives empower to another sol to make him pwn me, ask wehr, he was there. he also slept every1 cause we were fighting in the arena even if theres no rule on the server saying to not fight in the arena, im not talking about laming, im talking about fighting. what r u gonna do about it? if i could i would take some screenshots, but im on windows 7 and ive got a 16:10 screen, so every screenshots i take on jk2 are black.
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 9:15 am

You didnt stop, solid was lagging like hell, because you didnt stopped fighting there, i said to stpo and fight in other place, nobody heread me, so i sleeped all the people in the map, so i love you, if you talk without evidence dont talk ^^
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PostSubject: Re: *Sigh* binarY AGAIN -___-   Sat 17 Apr 2010, 9:38 am

Nasty u were being a pain in ass. I was trying to tourney snake, and you kept being a complete penis running into the arena and trying to lame everybody. Dont come here with your bs, u were well out of order.

Everybody knows (or at least everybody with 1/2 ounce of common sense) knows that u dont interfere in tournaments. U stand at the side and watch respectfully, or leave the arena completely. You do not run riot trying to pwn everybody, and interrupting a tournement.

Pissed off about being sleeped? You were lucky not to be kicked. You and wehr were acting in a totally careless manner, u guys couldnt give a damn about anybody but yourselves and i back sebbat for his actions against u Mad
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