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Kernow Pilgrim
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PostSubject: FFF Alliance Information.   Wed 14 Jul 2010, 7:05 am

Here is a general post for our allies 'FFF' to post into should they feel the need to request anything or engage in diplomatic discussion xD

If anyone doesn't already know FFF are a good clan with such members as Manta, Boogieman and many more friendly players. Their forum address ' http://fff.plusbb.org/index.php ' is there and I strongly encourage everyone to visit them and say hello.

Obviously their server is 'FFF' - So drop by here also.

Here's to a long and healthy Alliance. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 4:57 am

HAI FFF FATTIES.
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 6:28 am

Manta WE <3 U! Razz

Btw I would like to ask if there are any FFF that read this make yourselves known - It would be good to hear from you guys. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 6:41 am

Greetings FFF
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 15 Jul 2010, 7:21 am

lol ok
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Mon 19 Jul 2010, 6:08 am

Manta pointed out to me that Some admins were being lax with dealing with lamers - And that he expected better from them.

People like Devy and Clown were brought up and how Devy always said to Manta that he would never be banned because admin like Hek always unbanned him.

I know Heky is biased sometimes but this is a message for us all to make a strive for more objectivity and strictness in the rules.

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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 7:42 am

that s why i am concerning about you guys, that you guys still manage to unban these peoples who bullies you and me all the time :S
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 7:54 am

I think this is going to be even more of a concern because the new DC admin line up is unlikely to be any stricter, if i was amongst them you could place your faith in the fact that my forthright and righteous charicter would not allow lamers and scripters to run riot on our server, and they would not be given a free reign.

Maybe thats why i havent been voted, because the members think i would be too strict or harsh. But certaily prefer my way of upholding rules to the ways of for example: mereel, blue, hektor and ajunta (and more), who appease and turn blind eyes, or who wont use admin to police the server. (mer stated that one of the reasons he voted for alien, is because he doesnt use admin against rule breakers.) Thats ridiculous...

I think that SoL is loosing all desire to uphold server rules to the max, lamers and scripters get away scott free these days, and with the new DC admins coming in, i think thats unlikely to change. :/
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 8:42 am

Why is it people ALWAYS jump to conclusions with me..... =_='

I am not as strict for a few reasons: 1) NOT ALWAYS THE LAMERS FAULT! You guys only listen to the complainer, and don't even take into account what the other person says. Yes I know there are plenty of assholes out there, but there is such thing as newbies trying to get rid of a player they don't like. I seen it many times. I try to get both sides of the story and compare the facts. Then I make a decision. 2) IT IS NOT MY MAIN JOB. When I was HC, my job was to care and fix the server, not "police" it. That is HC secondary duty. DC admins main duty is to protect. So usually, if I do get involved, Sebb, Kernow, or Xasomur already take care of the problem, leaving me with nothing to do. 3) Sometimes fighting is a good thing! When I said that Ali3n doesn't use admin against rule breakers, I mean instead of sleeping them or warning them, he fights them. Now yes warnings and sleeping is good (Do I have to remind you again that it is my 3-strikeout system that you guys adopted? HMM?), but I have found that when that sometimes the player is looking for a fight. So instead of them laming the new players, I attack the lamer, so they attack me instead. Now sometimes you get the players than ignore you, kill the newbies, then kill you, but that is when admin is REALLY needed. These people don't give a shit about anyone and anything. So yes admin is required, but in fighting the opponent, you learn and practice fighting, and you keep the players attention on you and not the newbies, keeping them safe. Called being selfless.

Also, I doubt you will ever calm a Euro. These players were breed to fight all the fuc king time. They don't believe in chatting, or laming. They fight, and when they are done, they chat for a second then leave. So they aren't in our server laming to be rude. It is all they know. Now yes they could learn to show respect, but that is why admins are around. Cause most (Or all) euros are of 2 things: Thick-headed and EVC users. So I doubt you won't stop all the lamers.

My point is I disagree with this image you set you mind to imagine me as. It is prejudice, and I don't like it. I have dealt with my fair share of laming, lagging, ganging, etc. But different strategies are required for different problems.
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 8:56 am

^ thats why i voted for him as dc Smile
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:03 am

<3 Xasomur
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:22 am

Fair point mereel, you do have your priorities right. Wink

However there are still others who dont perform to your standard, those who turn a blind eye because they dont want to deal with it, or those admins who appease rule breakers or wont use admin on them for whatever reason. For all we know, the next DC batch could be as bad as this, but people know that im not like this, i always act, i always ensure the server is policed properly and that everybody gets a fair game, and there would be less scripters around too (and im good at spotting scripters). Thats why i dont understand why people dont want me as an admin...
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:30 am

Like i said phoe ur #1 to me Very Happy (even though we don't get along sometimes Sad )



@ phoe and mer



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those who turn a blind eye because they dont want to deal with it, or those admins who appease rule breakers or wont use admin on them for whatever reason.


those kind of admins are n00bz -__-
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55 am

Who said we dont get along grimlore? I havent got a problem with you so long as your not spamming all the time. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:06 am

the difference pheonix is that, without offensing you, some people have means to fight lamers, while others don't. So some prefer use admin way, because they don't really have another choice ...
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:51 am

OR they is a 15 person + full server and about 5 of them are euros at riot everywhere....so FFA won't really do much...

I think I am quite capable of fighting them - The question is if I can be bothered when I know they won't stop laming after I finish fighting them AND having to ignore the fact that they are cheating on me.

Rekarmarized Mereel - Unless I am stressed and in a bad mode (hey I'm human soz) this is how I look at the situation. ESPECIALLY about finding out facts from both sides. Normally you will find it is six of one and half a dozen of the other. Victim will come to you and demand lamer gets banned for bullying etc... What victim doesn't tell you is that he provoked lamer with force spam on him, insults etc....

Only when people whose reputation preceeds them do I cut corners for the sake of waiting... Mainly merc (Who is now perma-banned so nvm), Devy, Siny, atpk, Ryner etc....

Hektor is the only person really Phoenix as Blue and Aju don't have admin at the present moment. Hek just loses face because he doesn't want to be unpopular, period. No offence Hek but we both know that's why.

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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:26 pm

@aju, its like kernow says, if a lamer targets me and only me, then i will fight back, even if i loose, i wont use admin. But if a lamer is targeting anybody on server, especially new and innocent players, then whether i fight, or warn or anything, he is still going to persist, thats where i used admin. Im not bothered about myself, but i wont allow innocent players games to be ruined. I would rather be known as an admin abuser, than somebody who turned a blind eye or didnt act when i should have.
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:52 pm

sooner an american kept trying to lame everyone. but i didn't let him kill others, i just had to get him off his way so that he couldn't kill them. So others could play, and he was unable to lame them ( only once or twice he managed to rage dfa them ).
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Fri 23 Jul 2010, 12:56 am

@ aju not all americans are noobs (atleast i think so..) they just have no class


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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Fri 23 Jul 2010, 1:01 am

hum, sry but you won't teach me the game x). I didn't say that americans are pro, but this one just tried to lame everyone.

And wrong, some have class : nibler, peg, justn, those are bests !
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Fri 23 Jul 2010, 1:02 am

i was kidding aju Smile
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Fri 23 Jul 2010, 2:57 am

It's all good with one aju - But when you have to manage the entire server:

Kernow wrote:
OR they is a 15 person + full server and about 5 of them are euros at riot everywhere....so FFA with them won't really do much...

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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Sun 15 Aug 2010, 7:46 am

To all FFF guys can you answer this?

Emerald said FFF is a guild. Is that true? Cos SoL consider it a clan....

But if you guys say its a guild then it changes many things xD

Just asking xD

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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Mon 16 Aug 2010, 4:58 am

If they have a server they're a clan.
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PostSubject: Re: FFF Alliance Information.   Mon 16 Aug 2010, 6:00 am

o.o had a server and its a guild, ffa had a server and its a guild
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