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 What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"

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PostSubject: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 29 Jul 2010, 9:48 pm

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FFa and Laming
It could be the most arguable term in Jk2
"laming" or "lamer"

Laming according to urbandictionary :
"Used in the game Star Wars Jedi knight Jedi Academy. The act off attacking someone with their saber down or chat bubble up."

what does FFa have to say about it ?

FFa doesn't recognize it. It is part of the game. It is not a crime, or considered an illegal offense in the law of lucasarts, or better yet real life !

Laming :

The Definitions of Laming according to FFa

- Laming(1) - "A slang term for "leave me alone" in the jedi knight outcast servers realm.

- Laming(2) - "A basic inference for players who play jedi knight outcast" this means they frag the opponent to score points, regardless of the players status in game.

- Laming(3) - "An exercise of deliberate assault practiced by players who do not recognize the server's clan rules or ideology on how the game is supposed to be played".

- Laming (4) - "An unwanted style of play within any server that deems it to be disruptive of the server hosting agenda.

- Laming (5) - A player may state this if they cannot handle the attacking player - and may request backup from their clan mates to address the issue. (eg. Tommy strikes down [ATS]Cubicle, Cubicle tries to retaliate tommy by a red DFA, and receives a swift kick to the head by tommy. This could go on for a few minutes and eventually, Cubicle then says in public chat - "Tommy is lamming!" "Kick him!"

Lamer :

- Lamer(1) - A derogatory term for a player who strikes another player down without the other's permission.

- Lamer(2) - A Player who lames is considered a player who disrupts the other player while the player could be in chat and using the server like msn.

- Lamer(3) - A Really disruptive player causing much disturbance in the NF realm especially leaping off stairs and balconies at a tremendous height and annihilating their opponent for no reason at all.

- Lamer(4) - A player that is considered a problem within the server - decided by the server's hosting clan, or other players who do not appreciate the attacking player.

- Lamer(5) - A really experienced well rounded fighter that cannot be halted by the opposing team's faction - usually as 1 unit or in pairs of 2. What happens is the lamer or lamer(s) receive a server warning and do not respond and continue their deliberate attack. If the server's clan or opposing coalition cannot dispatch the attacking players they are called a lamer in public chat. And usually the lamers are kicked or banned.(eg. [CA]Juheti finds an FFa player to be assaulting other [CA] members and proceeds to attack that FFa member while the onslaught is taking place, the FFa survives a few rounds and scrambles and hides for a time, while the [CA] group regathers and finds the conflict to be subsided - they continue the rest of their activites such as dueling. The FFa player returns and finds [CA]Juheti standing at the pad observing duels, he stands on the balcony and red DFA strikes [CA]Juheti - forcing him to respawn. [CA]Juheti calls
the FFa member a Lamer and will either kick or ban him if it continues...

Why we shouldn't recognize the term "Laming or Lamer"

1.) Why do you play Jedi Knight ? To chat with friends or kill to score points ? When you prevent others from playing the game they way they like to, that is a breach of someone elses rights and this is called gameplay deprivation.

2.) There is no law against it, in the jedi knight console cvar/rcon commands there is nothing that addresses that kind of issue. The game is meant to be played, not deprived. There were several anti-laming mods created by players, and most often abused in the past...

That is why FFa doesn't believe in the term laming. We collectively play the game as it is intended. You will even find our players constantly sparring each other to get better. The one comment that is displayed whenever you connect to a server is - "Defeat the other players to score points"... The gametype is Free For All mode, hence it is a free for all...

The latest one is the[u] [b]CHAT BOX EXPLOIT[/b]![/u]

The [b]chat box exploit[/b] occurs when there has been an auto admin designated to "babysit" the server while the admins are away, and sometimes admins will check periodically from time to time to see how formidable the auto admin has been. The auto admin will kick players at will for players who strike another player down while the other player is in chat or without the saber on. The Auto Admin does not come with Jk2MP it is a third party add on. Players lately will take advantage of the auto admin system if they cannot compete against advanced force users and will purposely go into chat hoping the player who is attacking them will catch them while their chat box is up causing a penalty, kick or the goal would be a ban - if the player is frustrating the individual(s). This is the most effective way to ban or kick someone with little to no effort and the purpose of the game is wasted. This chat box exploit technique is used on a frequent level on both ATS and SOL servers.


Conclusion

The term is more gloriously used in NF servers (No Force) as the players main focus' - is to duel or force fight duel. A player is normally not allowed to strike another player down without warning. It is understood to be disrespectful or rude to frag another player during chatting or when there saber is off. Whenever a players chat box is up it is inappropriate to strike them unless you let them know ahead of time. While FFa recognizes the term being used by alot of players since release ; it is not used properly, and most often abused. (ex. Laming Reference (5)) It was rare years ago, for people to complain about laming in Heavy Force Servers as the whole point of the game is to annihilate your opponents with all force means. When players typically complain about being "lamed" attacked, struck, or force to respawn, they have not achieved a high enough level of gameplay to retaliate to the attacks. It also tells the "lamer" that you are not capable of fighting back. And it shows that you are highly dependent on admins to establish a totalitarian rule on the server. It is heavily suggested these type of players find a game where they cannot be lamed, and they will never have to worry about it again. Games like The Sims and Civilization 4 do not have "laming" occur.

Because of laming definition 5 and the imfamous CHAT BOX EXPLOIT - FFa does not wish to recognize the term laming and continues to play this game for what it is. Jk2 is not msn, or aim ; our main objective is not "in game" talking. We are one united hand of players - call us lamers if you must, but we will continue our agenda accordingly.

Lets say we did not "lame" others in any server at all. Would players just stand around and have a chit chat ?

... and is accepting or initiating a duel a form of "Authorized Laming" ?

Thanks for reading FFa's view on the whole laming deal.

.FFa wants to hear from you !
write your thoughts on laming on :
http://ffaorder.forumotion.net/forum.htm

thanks for your time !

.FFa Team and Management.
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Sun 01 Aug 2010, 10:13 am

"Phoenix" wrote:

[b][quote]...Of course in reality it doesnt always work like that, some players stray from hangar and try to cause chaos in the temple or courtyard regions, but its less frequent than it would be if those areas were not provided.

Thx for coming and stating your opinion here anyway Barisov, it will be duely noted and taken into account. ;) [/quote][/b]



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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Sun 01 Aug 2010, 2:29 pm

Your point being voss?

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Sun 01 Aug 2010, 2:50 pm

[quote="Kernow Pilgrim"][color=orange]Your point being voss? [/color][/quote]

thanks for allowing me to voice my opinion on your forums.
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Sun 01 Aug 2010, 3:05 pm

Kernow, I know you disagree with Voss, but we do have a thing called "freedom of speech".

Also I noticed whenever Voss quotes someone, it doesn't work for some reason......
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 1:33 am

How do I prevent you from speaking here Voss?

Oh wait but I'm talking to the guy who considers it admin abuse when you log on :/

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 2:01 am

Voss.....we make our own rules you make yours....... 1 of our rules is Laming so DONT DO IT DONT U UNDERSTAND????
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 2:42 am

I don't get why we are still discussing in this thread as we have clearly said why we don't allow laming in OUR server. In every building, friends house EVERYWHERE are other rules. So is the same with servers. In private servers from some games your allowed to swear ( say "bad words" ). In the official not.

OUR server from SoL has a rule to NOT lame because of the simple fact we see JK2 as a social talking and playing game and not a warfare game, although I complete understand they way your looking because in the old times there was a match who could get 100 kills first to win the match and now this game has a more social environment.

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 2:46 am

Kernow, I am understand you disagreement with things, but when you are being an arse about it I am going to have to step in. People have what is called "OPINIONS". It is a new thing going around. You might of heard about it. Did his post in anyway meant to offend you, or personally insult you? No. It was a player of JK2 giving his point of view on the topic of laming and lamers. That is it, and nothing more. So I am going to ask you to please... please keep your head. I see no harm in this post. Not like he is trying to brainwash people......
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 2:51 am

What did I say?

I asked for him to make the point by just quoting random people.

Did I insult him? No. Did I prevent him from speaking? No. I asked him a simple little question.

Again - What is your point in just posting random quotes? Shall I just quote random people everywhere and when I get asked what I'm doing I'll just insult them and tell them they are preventing my freedom of speech?!? Janner emmets......

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 3:56 am

Although im happy to discuss and explain matter regarding how we run our server, my tolerance is limited when it comes to people who external to SoL, suggesting how we should run our server. Opinions are welcome, and explainations will be given, however SoL does not have a requiste to justify its server rules to anybody. Sorry, but that just how it goes, our server, our rules, and as we pay for the server, the running, maintaining, rules, regulations and conditions that we like the server to be in, are not up for debate or questioning.

Anybody is free to come and voice and opinion, anybody is free to come and ask questions, we are happy to provide answers and reasons, however if people come and make suggestions and implications on how we should be running our own server, you may not like the replies we give you in return. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Mon 02 Aug 2010, 4:29 am

i got a <3 for everyone Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Tue 03 Aug 2010, 1:00 am

Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
How do I prevent you from speaking here Voss?

Oh wait but I'm talking to the guy who considers it admin abuse when you log on :/


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A simple "Np". would have sufficed.

I merely followed up your suggestion to make
a thread on the forums of what I think about players and "laming".

Thanks for the replies to all,

and Have yourselves a good rest of the day..

Regards,
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Tue 03 Aug 2010, 1:09 am

Exactly Voss. Couldn't agree more. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 5:24 am

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All these problems could be solved if people just used their FREAKING bubbles. They're not there to look pretty. -__-
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 6:22 am

But people can use the bubbles to lame....
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 6:27 am

So? Use them as target practice.
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 7:47 pm

I know but i find it very annoying if someone in bubble is consatantly kicking you and maybe wins they say ez i just find it very annoying :/
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 10:33 pm

lol, bdl. just keep your bubble up too. or you can still elevator kill a bubble nub

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 1:03 am

I know but i still find it annoying -__-
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 3:51 am

mmm, then learn to fight so that they won't annoy you, or they are dead?
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 6:45 am

I have learnt to fight......but they still annoy me.
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 7:41 am

Then own them whats the difference?
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 8:17 pm

I know but it just still ANNOYS ME!
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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 11:34 pm

i guess being constantly lamed is more annoying than get kicked by a wimp with bubble once in a while.
bdl, just THINK about it a bit and you will learn to love the BUBBLE Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: What FFa thinks of this term "Laming"   Sat 07 Aug 2010, 12:06 am

Love the bubble love the bubble...............nah its not working.
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