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PostSubject: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 7:14 am

Ok guys, as far as im aware for any new applicant going for recruitment, in order to pass his poll, all he has to do is receive a majority vote, yes?

Mmm i'm wondering whether we should up the stakes on this. When new applicants come, people often vote yes on their poll, simply because they dont know the applicant in person. Others vote no, which isnt fair on the appicant. (in my opinion if a person does not know the applicant they should not vote at all)

However as far as im aware in order for anybody to pass a poll they must reach a 51% pass rate, my proposal is that we raise the bar on this issue to say 75%. This could apply to recruit to members too!

One of the reasons i am saying this is because on my poll i recieved 100% (as many others have) of the vote, however others sometimes pass their poll with people voting against them.

As far as im concerned, even if one person votes against you, this is a serious cause for concern but unfortunatly, their reasons get undermined.

Often people have a good reason for voting no, but are undermined by other people who vote yes, simply because they dont know the guy so well, or havent been active when the applicant has, or have missed an incident regarding the applicant.
Often that one or two people voting no have cast iron reasons for voting this way, but are undermined because people less in know vote yes!

(i would like to make a example of nick not voting for waffle, apparently waffle was kicked from ATS for good reasons, but we vote yes to let him back in because we dont know the full story. Nick is undermined).

So my proposal is that we set a pass rate at 75% for all polls! What u guys think?

(omg is their is already a pass rate enforced that i dont know about in gonna be soooo embarressed, Laughing )

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 7:18 am

i thought about that too...
but kernow made a solution that only requires changes in voting criteria, and not in voting system...
just vote no if you dont know that person, and vote no if u are not sure, or u think that the person needs more time...

this will make the votes more worthy

and its better to vote at the end of the 7 days if u are not sure...

and that makes the votes more suspend^^

but the council may think abou that then... Smile

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 7:20 am

mmm do u not agree with a standard pass percentage?
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 7:24 am

i think this is better to leave to council when its ready??
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 7:28 am

Fair point snake Smile Its is just a proposal, not an urgent matter, we can discuss this later i later i guess Smile
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 8:58 am

I think this is a good idea, it used to be say 9 to 10 then they're in. So I'm fine with 75%
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 9:26 am

I don't see the point of percentage pass because 90 percent of our applicants given a poll get in with over 75% yes....but sure i am willing to change this.

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 9:54 am

Just one thing :
Recruit someone is letting him a chance to show that he desereves a place in ATS, so it's more the vote for member that should be more accurate.

When someone gets to recruits, he's just in way to member, but not ATS yet, so it's not an issue i think, but more the poll to get to member rank.

That's what i think.
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 10:24 am

Yeah aju i understand that, the thing is once a person is recruited its only a matter of time until he is given membership, it may be harder to get rid of unsuitable people once they are recruits.

Plus even as a recruit they still wear ATS tag and therefore are a representitive of ATS, so a recruit who is a bad example or unsuitable for ATS could give us a bad name.

just a thought anyway m8.
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Thu 07 Jan 2010, 11:42 am

We could also require a period of discussion on the candidate before the poll. At the very least we must tell people they cannot vote "Yes" unless they feel well-informed. Also, I agree with Ajunta.
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Sun 31 Jan 2010, 2:21 am

Ok guys i brought up this matter some time ago and it appears we agreed to wait until the council was formed before addressing it. Now the council is up i thought i would like to re-ignite my intrest in it, as it goes hand in hand with my other topic(recruits proposal). There appears to be mixed feelings here so i would like confirmation on what we think about the proposal here.

This isnt a poll, but i would like people to say yes or no and give reasons on whether they agree or disagree with the proposal?

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Sun 31 Jan 2010, 7:59 am

No
majority = the will of the clan. The most votes make the decision.

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Sun 31 Jan 2010, 11:24 am

well... i just hoped ppl just would vote NO if they dont know the person... it would represent the actual status of that person here...
otherwise i would like to raise really the quote to at least 51%... 50 percent is really... low... it means as many ppl have voted no as yes... and im quite sure some ppl didnt vote at all to be nice...
51% requires at least 1 vote in favor...
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 12:48 am

Meh... I'm just saying I don't like this rule u.u
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 1:00 am

which one? xD my proposed one, or the old xD 50/50 or the 75/25

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 1:06 am

I don't like the overall vote=pass.
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 1:18 am

@blue, Am i correct in thinking you prefer a higher pass rate?
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 1:54 am

lol blue i dont get u...
who, if not a general vote, want u to decide who is gonna get recruit and not... shall outcast decide? or shall someone decide who then TURNS into outcast? or shall we vote for someone who decides it? ahh no... u didnt wanted to vote...
man i think i must have gotten u right...
or u just didnt express it correctly ...

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 3:07 am

Lets go by what Outcast said once before... "Quality vs. Quantity"
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 4:00 am

omg cant u just say what u mean?
u dont want any polls?
or what?

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Mon 01 Feb 2010, 10:15 am

I think, that since we want "Quality vs. Quantity" then we should make sure that they could be a good member, by hiring the pass rate, and if they don't have quality, who cares if they join Outcast? Its not like they're gonna go anywhere after that, lol. And its not like they're gonna learn neither, the entire clan is a nab clan and so is most of the people that go there.
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Tue 02 Feb 2010, 1:05 pm

Vote, which way outcast tells us too lol, but yeah voting is the best way for pass Smile
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Tue 02 Feb 2010, 1:08 pm

Uh, dude, idk if you noticed... but we separated from outcast lol
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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Tue 02 Feb 2010, 1:37 pm

so blue, you want that the pass rate is higher or what?
or do u want something completely different?

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PostSubject: Re: ATS pass rate proposal   Tue 02 Feb 2010, 1:43 pm

Yes, I want the pass rate to be hired, can we put a poll or something?
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