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 United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!

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PostSubject: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 8:07 pm

Hi all :) Just wanted to say that, well, I'm leaving sol now. This means that i will make my guild in to a clan, even though I'm unsure if my members like Ralen will follow me? Personally i just got tired of Sol, that's all. Nothing exiting at all, I've had a red spark for what, about two months without seeing a shadow of a membership poll? I won't explain in big details about why i'm leaving, so please don't begin a big discussion.

If some of you wants to talk feel free to visit the server every once in a while (I might not be there most of the days since it's unsure that my boarding schools internet will show it on the list, but i'll be home mostly every 2nd weekend (Not home this weekend "24/9 25/9 26/9"). Then i'm not home Ralen host a, well sort of, 2nd server or backup server if you could say, witch isn't running the same mod, but it really helps to show that we're not a dying clan and so on.

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 8:30 pm

Take care Chameleon. Good luck with your clan.
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 8:44 pm

Thanks Smile
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 10:34 pm

Uhh wow erm i was worried this would happen =/ i wont follow but I have no issues assisting in anyway possible seeming as till im a "member" of SoL its doubtful I could be of much use to them Smile

1) still SoL

2) helping UG

simple enough its not multiclanning so yeah not really a problem I would imagine
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 11:17 pm

lol boring xD
then make your own boring clan and try to do a total tourney like us.
you could have checked it if you waited some weeks.
oh and you could have actually played with us and could have strived for higher ranks.

oh... yea, ppl check the total tourney forums!

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Mon 20 Sep 2010, 11:56 pm

Listen, i feel really ignorred here. It's like you never look at my replys to topics. And i've had the red spark for what, a month or more? I've been as active as i possibly could be, but still no "Recruit to member" poll is up???? Then why wait even more to MAYBE get a higher rank?
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 12:40 am

Chameleon wrote:
Listen, i feel really ignorred here. It's like you never look at my replys to topics. And i've had the red spark for what, a month or more? I've been as active as i possibly could be, but still no "Recruit to member" poll is up???? Then why wait even more to MAYBE get a higher rank?

when in theory ranks don't matter...

"everyone on equal" sept the recruits of course they have to wait to be a member before they vote or in general participate I can understand his problems with it to some points

and xaso really mature on the whole "then you'll try and do a total tournament like us" thing
to be honest it shouldn't really matter what he does now it would have been nice to see some encouragement regardless of the fact jk2 is pretty much dead,also of late SoL hasn't really been very exciting either so its not really a good thing to be slamming down on someone's decision.

and of late you seem to be rather defensive of what you portray this clan as which is fairenough its just a little concerning is all and not really a good example to see you in some ways getting rather hostile about it even if only in a passive aggressive kind of way.
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:14 am

boring we are huh? its your opinion though but i have to tell you something..
SoL was born as Outcasts bad Leading reached a high point many members and vrecruits wanted to know what happened Then a Group of old ATS members recreatet the clan without outcast then he returned and called us traitors because we had enougth of his leading..
we gained freedom from Outcast . That was the day when SoL was born and this past and our present here gives this clan a real Soul..

so i wouldnt say that we are boring Razz Wink
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:17 am

Xaso don't act all insulting please let's make this as friendly as possible. Cha is allowed to speak his mind.

Cha thanks for your time in SoL, I really valued your friendship and trust and complete honesty mate thanks Smile - Good luck with your clan UG and I hope it all goes well for you.

ps: I think you know the reasons that were preventing you from getting membership at this time but we won't go into it.

Best Wishes

~K.P

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:23 am

well, it wasnt me that excluded the recruits from elections.
but what shall sol do to make it more suspend? we have ranks, we have tournaments, we have total tournament, we have role play, we have politics and everything. all you gotta do is take the offers we make. if you dont do, its your fault.

the reason why chameleon is still red spark is the issue with isabella, because he is obviously lying about something. idk if isabella is fake, but the story about her isnt completely true, somwhere he IS lying and this fact makes the members back off from opening a poll for him. additionally i dont see him online often. but thats my own perception.

and ranks dont matter, i just said as he is bored he could strive for higher ranks because it is fun and it takes time to do it, and the tourneys for ranks are the most thrilling in this game. i didnt say it to imply that he needs a higher rank to be recognized. in fact he is much more recognized than much of the other recruits because of the isabella issue...

and yea, the recruits are no members. this is what we recognized during a long discussion. but recruits can take part at the total tournament, and as you put it, it seems you have no idea what it is. so i recommend to read the announcement bar and check it out. its an event made all 6 months. and its starting soon. its stupid to leave short before saying nothings on here...

and i am not defensive for this clan, i am one of the most criticising ppl here. but i defend my own views. my own views about scripting and game play, my own views on ppl. and my own view on chameleon is deepy disturbed by lies and nsecurities and this is just the top of the mountain. instead of proving himself as worthy of the clan and a good bloke to become a member he just comes and downgrades the clan and leaves.
this is another hypocricity and its very low.

oh yes and about my aggressivness: its my style. if i want to insult someone, i'll do it. but my aggressive tone is no insult... its a challenge. thats all. i want to challenge what i have to criticise and i dont want to hide my critics behind nice words, nice words that would be a lie, because theyre not what i think.
and in fact i rarely insult, because they are not what i think of as well. but when someone feels insulted, then probably because i hit the spot, and not because i was indeed insulting.

if you really want to make any correct statement about my "potrayal" of the clan, then you should check the council discussions!

ps: i am free to speak my mind as well

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:27 am

Xaso YOu are owning them all Razz
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:32 am

xD spark on a petrol tank eh?

We both know Cha doesn't find the clan 'boring' as a primary reason for him leaving the clan. He just isn't a true SoL. People are only leaving atm (Danek, Hora, Cha) because they want to find something better and don't think they're getting enough recognition in the clan. If we all did that JK2 would be a lonely place for self-ambitions only, and there would be no big clans because everyone wants to create their own and rule it their way.

Danek leaves because he hates Hektor and Ninja and TsF doesn't have them in it ^_^ - Also perhaps the prospect of admin is more feasible.
Hora is just close friends with Herny - That overranked his duty as admin or his friendship and companionship with all of us here...that I am a bit dissapointed in.
Chameleon either way doesn't like the trust relations between him and SoL, that is it.

All people leave a clan for negative reasons primarily, or to get something better. Cha obviously left SoL for bad reasons and sub-conciously wanted to have a subtle insult into his goodbye message.

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:42 am

yes, and all this leaving for untrue reasons makes me angry. as soon as hora post inhis topic again, he maybe gets another post of this quality... or danek... but i am afraid danek will shed tears and leave jk2 forever... so maybe not XD
so bacara... so if you take a decision, be true in how you explain it!

Razz

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:52 am

Xasomur wrote:
well, it wasnt me that excluded the recruits from elections.
but what shall sol do to make it more suspend? we have ranks, we have tournaments, we have total tournament, we have role play, we have politics and everything. all you gotta do is take the offers we make. if you dont do, its your fault.

the reason why chameleon is still red spark is the issue with isabella, because he is obviously lying about something. idk if isabella is fake, but the story about her isnt completely true, somwhere he IS lying and this fact makes the members back off from opening a poll for him. additionally i dont see him online often. but thats my own perception.

and ranks dont matter, i just said as he is bored he could strive for higher ranks because it is fun and it takes time to do it, and the tourneys for ranks are the most thrilling in this game. i didnt say it to imply that he needs a higher rank to be recognized. in fact he is much more recognized than much of the other recruits because of the isabella issue...

and yea, the recruits are no members. this is what we recognized during a long discussion. but recruits can take part at the total tournament, and as you put it, it seems you have no idea what it is. so i recommend to read the announcement bar and check it out. its an event made all 6 months. and its starting soon. its stupid to leave short before saying nothings on here...

and i am not defensive for this clan, i am one of the most criticising ppl here. but i defend my own views. my own views about scripting and game play, my own views on ppl. and my own view on chameleon is deepy disturbed by lies and nsecurities and this is just the top of the mountain. instead of proving himself as worthy of the clan and a good bloke to become a member he just comes and downgrades the clan and leaves.
this is another hypocricity and its very low.

oh yes and about my aggressivness: its my style. if i want to insult someone, i'll do it. but my aggressive tone is no insult... its a challenge. thats all. i want to challenge what i have to criticise and i dont want to hide my critics behind nice words, nice words that would be a lie, because theyre not what i think.
and in fact i rarely insult, because they are not what i think of as well. but when someone feels insulted, then probably because i hit the spot, and not because i was indeed insulting.

if you really want to make any correct statement about my "potrayal" of the clan, then you should check the council discussions!

ps: i am free to speak my mind as well

I figured it may have been a challenge more than an aggressive tone but it may at point's come across that way,I wouldn't call what I said an attempt to change the way you are or stop you from expressing your opinion more an observation (note that this is not me putting words into your mouth rather me countering my own argument so to speak)

I also believe that my previous post was rather simple and rushed and didn't quite explain that I was merely putting across an alternative point of view on the situation however the small insult he made is something I disagree with.

as for xem I wouldn't really call it owning merely a better written argument that he wouldn't have put in his first post so in theory it wouldn't have been possible for me to build a good argument to start with purely because I was working on observations from a small amount of time I've actually been active lately

but anywho havent got the time bye for now
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 2:48 am

me i know how to make the game really interesting and inovative ...
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 9:10 am

Bye
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 9:20 am

Goodbye Cham Smile. Have fun with ur new server XD but don't steal Ralen completely I need to duel him some more XD!

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 9:40 am

Thanks Ferret :'/
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:08 pm

@ ralen
well yes, there was a rain falling down on you now... but know its only water Razz and you wont drown...
but next time you will check the sky as well, and not only the stone below your feet before you do a statement about the weather Razz

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 1:12 pm

I hear that because TsF are having troubles hosting a server that they are combining clans with UG? So UG and TsF are forming one big clan ya? Cos UG has the server and the forum and TsF have the members....that's what I've heard from TsF personally.....

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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 5:43 pm

That's why it's called United Gaming xD Well, i just think that they seemed nice Smile And no new clan would survive on it's own in a new game Smile Not UG and neither TsF, that's one of the reasons i accepted this uniting.
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 6:57 pm

i have no idea what your trying to say xaso but


I DRINK WATER FOR BREAKFAST

and at other points through the day in order to survive >: D
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PostSubject: Re: United Gaming! From guild to a CLAN!   Tue 21 Sep 2010, 11:47 pm

im trying to say that you watch out both sides of a conversation before you take a side : >

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