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Micr0
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PostSubject: SoL vs ATS   Fri 10 Dec 2010, 5:33 pm

Ok hello everybody. you know me Micr0zoft Micr0 for short and this is what im going to say and spread my feelings bout this horrable thing that's happing right now.
ok if i cuss then im sorry and this mite be my last form topic because even though you guys wan't me back i still just need to have some space. i love you all im not going to put names down because im scared to leave somebody out and nobody wan'ts to be left out of my friends list :p. but right now im serious i have alot of topics about me leaving and stuff but yeah im serious about this.
i joined about 2 years ago by a man named kernow. kernow you are the reason im in this clan. at first i wanted to join then you helped me with that. thank you. sebb you are one of the ats legends like kernow here. you also helped me you where my 2ed friend in ATS [sol now] and me and you where good friends. also mereel i don't really know about you but you are also a legend but every time i try to be talkitive to you you egnore me. THAts fine though.NickDeCw you are also one of the legends you are a good friend to me Smile thank you. and Hektor also a legend thank you also once i met you you were all like aw yes Fresh Meat lol. then me and you talked and became friends Smile thank you for being there. now about this Casper bboying thing to tell you the truth im not him but i am a Bboy Bboy loren. :p i was just scared to show my videos so i showed you my favorite bboy which is bboy casper sorry if i lied to you guys expesaly to Swifty you are also a wonderful person thank you for being awesome Smile now i have alot of friends like sind pro dan ect but i don't wan't to leave enybody out unless me looking at every member at the sol members page :p. ok NOW why did i say Sol vs ATS. ok this is what i feel. I FKING HATE THIS FUDE ABOUT ATS AND SOL I FKING HATE IT I KNOW OUTCAST CAN BE A BIT/CH BUT THIS IS JUST A GAME. WHY DO WE HALF TO FIGHT? HUH IM SERIOUS HERE. ITS A FKING GAME US ALSO HATING THEM WHY DO WE HATE THEM? OUTCAST AS IN HISTROY SAYS IT TAHT HE IS A CHEEP BANNER TAHT EVERY TIME HE SEESS US WE GET BANNED TAHT IS TRUE BUT I KNOW THAT I CAN SEE THAT SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE HIDNG FROM US TELLING THEM THE BAD CLAN TAHT'S BAD TO SAY. IT'S JUST A GAME I SAID AGAIN. GAMES ARE SUPPOST TO BE FUN NOT BEABLE TO HATE PEOPLE. AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE SOL TOOK SOMETHING FROM OUTCAST I DON'T KNOW BUT IM JUST GUESSING OK!. LOOK WE CAN BE BETTER THAN THIS DON'T YOU THINK?
but yes i know you guys mite just come out and start yelling at me but just here this it's just a game and tell that to outcast because i bet hes a fing nerd at a keybored. and if your going to say something to me go ahead Smile i <3 you all and yes i am quiting the clan i will still play but im out im sorry all this has nothing to do with it but just stress and this hatefull place. it's crazy. and guys kernow i know your apart of this. don't tell people that there horrable because everybody like me has a Horable side. maybe say something to outcast to freshing him up. like what i say if you fight fire with fire YOU will JUST get A BIG FIRE do you wan't your hopes and dreams and friends to die in that fire? Thank you for looking at this topic i love you all :'( i will miss you SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL SOL and i wanted to get to yellow but i guess i lollygaged Smile :'( all hugs goodbye. good by sol and goodbye the forms

PEACE! :'(

~Micr0zoft~ Last goodbye Smile
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Fri 10 Dec 2010, 9:27 pm

Eh?
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:02 am

That was a big list of things.
Well bye then, mayby we will see you again (if you are still reading this).

Lol i would talk to outcast but he banned me for having a ATS tag in his server.
(2nd ban for SoL tag and 3rd ban (and final one) for GKE tag)

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 1:15 am

=/ Man sorry to see you go.

Dw about the lie, sometimes i pretend im a girl when people ask me about my profile pic.
Good luck on the breakdancing and what ever else you are doing.

Come back soon! WE GOT SERVED?
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 1:45 am

Micro you've obviously spoken to Chelsea about what happened yestarday.

I was on the ATS server perfectly getting along with Fi, StarStriker and Nu-BbY. Chelsea came on and said 'I've come from pseudoclan server where fake is there wearing our tag'. This triggered one of my rants at him about how he is acting exactly like Outcast and how he was calling us 'corrupting fakes' and using the word 'rats' etc. I got very fustrated with Chelsea's narrowminded manipulation on how he was acting exactly like Outcast. Even Fi took my side because Chelsea was the one who provoked the reaction.

Me and ATS~FI, Starstriker and Nu BbY were on the same page here - That ATS and SoL didn't need to be proclaimed for their negatives and that the two clans should just get along in peace. You think we have to hate all ATS but we don't! We only dislike Outcast and Kyle because of their administrative abuse and censoring dictatorship. Chelsea provoked my reaction with his insulting terminlogy - And when he blamed me me for the argument and I said 'but Chelsea what was the first thing you said when you were on the server just now?', he ignored me and insisted we 'forget the past and just leave it'. If you think our history is a crime (which is what Chelsea's main problem was which is why I know you've talked to him) then what else do you suggest when every attempt at peace is met by /amban?

Later Outcast came on and Chelsea wasted no time telling Outcast it was me (undercover obviously but I made saw they knew it was me) and informing him etc. A lagger came on the server and started lagging out Chelsea and Outcast did nothing. He instead decided to 'put the monkey in the zoo' - Silencing me and putting me in the jail before using bots with guns to kill me, eventually saying 'done' and banning me. I said nor done nothing to provoke it - It was irony after Chelsea telling me - Every single ban made on ATS is well reasoned and well respected. Neutral

Chelsea has been so warped into Outcast's frame of mind by his close friendship with Outcast - He says to forget things and move on, that the past is past etc yet he still retains hostile Outcastian language when referring to us. It's very hypocritical - You know why Outcast wants to forget the past? Why he hates our topic archives so much? Because he wants to forget his mistakes.

I think your an amazing member in this clan and I don't want to lose you as such a legendry member over something as trivial as clan relations which are only made worse because of Outcast's/Kyle's dealings with us and our reaction to it in a non-violent way. I remember Chelsea left ATS the 2nd time (before rejoining for the third) because you talked with him, I respect that yet at the same time I think when you were saying stuff like 'SoL is the light side or the good path' etc I think it was just confusing him. I appreciate the effort but yea I think it's best to just let experiance gain their understanding. Chelsea (to my knowledge) had no negative experiance in SoL, it was Outcast that turned him against the clan and made him think we 'pollute the minds of jk2 players, we are pseudoclan rats only'. He used all the same language as Outcast in almost the same illeterate sentence structure.


Anyway you should've asked me about that because at the moment you're letting Chelsea's (narrow) side of the story effect you without asking me my side. So there it is.

Anyway back to you leaving now we've got that out - I still think it's silly to leave over relations between ATS and SoL. It should be because of a fault in the clan, however I respect your decision yet love you as a member which is why I'm so sad to see you go.

Thanks for everything dude and I hope you reconsider joining. SoL indeed forever in your heart I hope Razz

Btw are you quitting the game? Will we still see you? D:

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 1:53 am

AH DAMN!!!!! this isin't funny at all Sad well i wish you good luck for the future and i hope to see you in game

GL FOR THE FUTURE M8!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 2:24 am

Battledroidlover wrote:
Eh?
I think this was a question!
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 2:49 am

Noooo.... you are leaving ? I am going to be so ronery !

And yeah, Chelsea apparently nods to everything Outcast says now. :/
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 3:49 am

UGH this is such comfusing talk right now omg Chelsea says that it's kernows falt then kernow says it's chelseas falt this is why im quiting the clan this fude between you and chelsea. it's BullSh!t. kernow iknow what your saying but still. every body needs peace in there life. don't you think so. without peace there is destruction with destuction there will be more infamous people that will bring havoc on sol or ats. ats outcast just wants what he left back the members but because he says we betrayed him he hates us. that is fking stupid don't you think? outcast hating us it's childish. what where you guys suppost to do when outcast was gone? stay there you thought he was gone so you left and made your own ats ect ect but yes.
and kernow im still going to play just now with the tag enymore Smile
and if your going to talk to someone don't make it a bigger fight. just let it go!

love you all peace

~Micr0zoft~
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 3:57 am

alright micro, and i thought u wanted your yellow too Sad

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 3:57 am

Micro, i talk every day with chelsea, he is still cool with me and im cool with him, but you need to understand that if you are in ats, you will think that every sol cheats (Except some of ats who are our friends) And if you didnt know, all the spanish speakers from ats are leaving 'cause of outcast, just the council ulrich and azqua are still there.

Its something fun becasue ats leader talks spanish ^^


Well, if you are leaving im sad, you are a really cool friend, and i will miss you :/
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 4:12 am

micro. we want peace. but if you try to talk to outcast to MAKE peace and end this stupid fight, you will get
a) either ignored
b) or instantly banned
c) or u cant even access the server or forum because youre still banned since 1 year

and the worst is, you cant enter their server without isntant ban
and you cant access their forum...

WE want peace. as soon as he wants too, im sure we find a way soon Smile

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 4:45 am

As far that I am concerned, ATS is slowly vanishing.
Once a giant, now an outraged dwarf.

Anyway, you can always try to talk some reason to him
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 2:31 pm

xaso i forgot you you are also one of the legends see what i mean leaving people out? lol. enyways i wish that someone that is higher than outcast maybe the creater of the game we talk to him about him and take away his admin ablitys you know what im saying?. but yeah i wan't peace between. but right now outcast is acting like a child to just egnore you or instant bann you just childish Smile.

~Micr0zoft~
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 2:52 pm

You left me out, though I am probably not a legend D:.

The ball is in ATS' court. They are the ones who are capable of taking the next step towards ending it. We welcome their members to our server. It is they who ban us on sight when we connect.

It also does not help that they are essentially adding more fuel to the fire by presenting us as fakes, cheaters, liars, scripters, clan stealers, rats, etc. to their members.

We've done pretty much all we can on our end, but there's a point where the other side will have to make compromises too.
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sat 11 Dec 2010, 3:51 pm

If Outcast doesn't make peace, he's gonna lose every single member of ATS, so sad eh?
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Sun 12 Dec 2010, 1:37 am

Once you are old enough in ATS and have experianced the subtle system you normally leave I agree. But many people stay even tho they dislike Outcast - It is in fear of being individualized and banned or because they are just as narrow-minded towards us as Outcast himself.

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:35 am

BDL...the answer to your question is simple READ WHAT MICRO WRODE!!!! bounce

And i think that WE SoL would always fight for Peace...in this case we wouldnt fight i think we all would love to have peace with them!
My words for this are like yours micro :
WE are a CLAN of JK2 (the GAME) its totally pathetic from EVRYONE of us to feel hatred aggainst Outcast BECAUSE (you got it ITS A GAME) BUT we are a CLAN of jk2 and no clan from real life so there will always be hatred and i think its just OK...
In this case we are talking about a great game and its getting older and older...its fantastic that all these ppl here still play this game and honostly there are new better games...but the PPL play it because they love it. my words should actually say that JK2 Is DIENG summer 2 years ago the servers where full of ppl who loved 2 play (also assholes under those players geek ) and look today almost empty....but WE still play it BECAUSE WE LOVE IT!
So my words say that we should prevent or (dunno i mean that we should not let it happen Very Happy ) that JK2 dies so we players of SoL ATS and ALL other jk2 players should stand together.

So i tell you now....isnt it time to lay old gruges aside?

But i think that from what i told you outcast or ATS wont learn so my time i spend in writing where useless...
ore not? who knows....


Goodbey Micro my friend have a good life and show ure ass on our server once or twice ok? PROMISE Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Tue 14 Dec 2010, 9:49 am

He can't read this now Xem....his member access has been withdrawn. Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: SoL vs ATS   Tue 14 Dec 2010, 10:12 am

I can take on whole server full of ats members, only blue style for them ^^
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