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PostSubject: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 9:54 am

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Guys i want talk you about something that is related to Outcast. Today i went to his server because i want to talk with him (and i am not going to lie, also to bother him a little but in the end i didn´t do it). Well first he wasen´t there, but DarkKyle and whisky were there (they treat me very good Smile and i already know there are good persons). I put my SoL tag and when outcast appears he told me (Sorry but all the dialogs i translate has not the exactly words but the meaning is there) "What are you doing here? don´t play with me, you know you can´t use that tag", then he started kicking me...so i started to fight with him in an 15 minutes duel. He healed all the times, it was like i would have hit him 80 times and he 25 or 30 in total because he healed. But in the end he killed me (if you want to call me a pro go ahead, i don´t care i just want to talk with him). After that single duel he kicked me from server, so i came back. He started calling me an inexperienced and I told him "You know who i am Outcast, don´t call me like that" (I can´t believe once i was a friend of him Neutral). Then he said " i don´t want people like you that insult and spawn and just bother the others" (but that wasn´t true, i didn´t bother anyone or insult...only is right when he said i used the tag). So he told me to leave if i didn´t want more problems and i told him "no matter what you do, i won t be stop being a SoL...i like my clan and if you have to ban me for being one of them then go ahead". Just then, a player called "dueler" (maybe he was darkkyle or one of the people there that rename) speak to outcast so i can stay in the server (good actitude from him but i told him that he hadn´t have to worry about me, i didn´t worth it). So then Outcast kicked me again from the server and when i came back i said "I just want to tell you something before i go...". Banned.
Outcast won´t going to change never, he´s problem is that he doesn´t want to hear anything from us so he just let the problem between us exits. If he wants a chance to be a friend of us, i would give him a second chance but he is just being a big headed right now :/
What i was going to told him at the end was "I just want to tell you something before i go...I hope you stop ignore everyone and start to heard the opinions from all, cya ya and have a good life Smile" but he couldn´t read all :/

Finally, say to not wear a tag from another clan or I be banned it´s like being racist. For example if I (i am from argentina) go to Chile, and the people there tell me that i will die if I say that i am proud of being from argentina or just for say that i am from argentina...that would be racist. (the example from chile isn´t real, it´s a example of what COULD be racist)

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 2:35 pm

what if i kept laming, but i was being nice to all of u, would u ban me?
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 2:53 pm

if you had been nice to us, you wouldnt have lamed when we asked you to stop... doh... troll

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 3:53 pm

aju ask boss to hack ats so we can just ban him from his own server Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 4:41 pm

We might not like him, but we cant stoop that low. I would rather hold on to my pride than sacrifice it for an underhanded act even if it is against Outcast.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 10:31 pm

Nasty, you lame. Server rule is no lame, it's written and repeated everywhere. So yes, we can ban you if you lame too much.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 1:12 am

Can't you guys just leave outcast alone seriously you never get any clever.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 1:40 am

I don't want to hear anything more about retaliation from SoL members against Outcast. You do anything and you're in serious trouble. That's not our way, stop making those posts.

nastY is right. The ATS server has its rules as we have ours. There is no difference in the comparison nastY is drawing. We have different rules, yes: We ban for disruption to a respectful gaming atmosphere, whereas Outcast bans for dissent against his aristocracy. In OUR OPINION, our bans are more justified, but Outcast has just as much right to make his bans as we have to make ours. He and his clan are providing a free service to the public, and our use of that service is conditional on our following his rules, regardless of whether they are clearly stated or not. If you find that you cannot follow his rules, don't join the ATS server. It's as simple as that, and there is NOTHING ELSE you should be choosing to do, except for occasionally asking respectfully for their rules to change if you are so inclined.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 1:54 am

Unfortunatley nick is right. We may not like it, but Outcasts server = Outcasts rules, just the same as ours. Its up to him how he runs his server, no matter how extremist he wants to be, we just have to grin and bear it because the is nothing we can do. As a paying customer running a public server, he has an entitlement to do exactly what he likes on his server (a principle you seem to be unable to grasp Nasty), no matter what it is. While he pays, he calls the shots. I just urge members to refrain from going there, no good will come from it. But if they do go, rememeber than SoL will not condone any unlawful actions, and if you do anything on the ATS server against the SoL code, its high likelyhood we will repremand or even exile you, depending on the magnitude of your crime.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 2:00 am

Phoenix wrote:
As a paying customer running a public server, he has an entitlement to do exactly what he likes on his server (a principle you seem to be unable to grasp Nasty)
In nastY's defense I'd like to tentatively disagree here. Over the past couple months, yes, he didn't seem to understand this point. But more recently on the forum he's been speaking in the past tense about how he "once did that," and in this thread he was absolutely saying what I said - that's why I agreed with him.

Now I'm not sure whether or not he actually <em>believes</em> the point, but he's been using it as an argument in this thread. Just want to be fair.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 3:26 am

<Ca>Matt. wrote:
guys your fighting over a Star Wars Game lol

Couldn't put it better.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 3:30 am

Xaso 5
Nasty 0

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 5:44 am

Hi everyone. As you can see everyone here have such samom reviews Outcast. I have not had a chance to know him from the wrong side for yourself. So you all have a right Outcast never change. Some members of the SoL come to the ATS server but do not use the tag but they are usually newer people are those who not long ago joined the clan when Outcast anything that does not banował someone who does not understand what this conflict. The Outcast I can only say one is guided by their own rules. But, but as far as Kyle seems to me that he is even worse. I think I was here I raised this issue KernowPillGrim came to our server and Kyle recognized him. I asked him to let go even Kernow but he likes to use his powers administrator. Kyle as a notice that someone had logged on the server Tagged)> SoL <(not looks but who does the same as usual. Once I had the opportunity play with Outcast on the server and came to us a member of the SOL had a tag. So I asked not to Outcast react too aggressively so I told somebody that just changed the tag so I deleted the Outcast's had this player because it is possible that the first time he saw him. In my opinion influences the Outcast are its members. So there is some way to come to an agreement with him. Returning to Kyle comes from the same country as I am but still probably not written a single word in the Polish language, which is ridiculous to better get along with him in English but his pockets to mind something that does not forgive. I have tried many times to talk to them about this type of problem but they said the same as usual, your excuses.

Not long ago I was given a proposal by one moderator of this forum about doing a tournament with another server and believe or not listed at 6 SoL clan clans only had 60% of the vote after the other 20% or 10% of the votes were quite a lot. So the conclusion from this is that I now only Outcast and Kyle have something to SoL. So if you do not know how they managed to convince me that these two guys you went to the tournament SoL vs ATS.


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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 5:54 am

From an admin abuse point of view, Kyle is worse than Outcast. He is a smug kid sat in Outcast pocket, ive never met anybody more power hungry in my whole time in jk2. I remember the very first post i made on ATS forum, all that time ago. It was a peacefull statement that kyle read wrong, but Kernow had to step in and tell kyle he was out of order. That shows just what kind of arsehole he is. A stupid gimp of a kid who loves power.

Thing is, Outcast will ban you, gang you, and insult you. But kyle goes much farther than that. He will sleep you, kick you, silence you, slap you and basically humiliate you on server. He wont ban you, he will just abuse you to such to a degree that you have no choice but to disconnect. I actually think Kyle is worse than Outcast. I used to like Outcast, but ive never liked Kyle, not from day 1 Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 5:59 am

STOP WRITING LONG SENTENCES YOU AREN'T GAMERS OMG
IT'S AN ALMOST DEAD 2002 GAME, NOT EVEN UPDATED WEEKLY
WHY DO U CARE SO MUCH ABOUT A 2002 GAME?
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 6:01 am

Your still here arent you napalm? So you must care too...
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:37 am

Tenken wrote:
Xaso 5
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big hater! big fail! its more like nastY 5 Xaso 0, since nick agreed with me Smile
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:06 am

Nick didnt agree with you. Nick was reffering to my point that i made; that you don't understand the fact that people who pay for the servers call the shots no matter what. All Nick was saying was that from what he has seen you say, he believes you DO understand that fact, you simply dont care for it.
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:25 am

Pwned, Pwned, Pwned, and double pwned! Go Phoenix go go!
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:16 am

nick isnt completely right. outcast's server has no rules. we have rules. they have arbitrariness...

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:19 am

server has no rules, but outcast has his own rules, its his server, he can ban whenever he wants, he pays for it as nick said, he does everything he wants on it.
and phoenix, do i really have to quote what nick said?
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:25 am

your quoting what I said!
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:26 am

outcast has no rules... he has his monthlies...
he has no ideals, he has only seflishness...
he has no trueness, he has only faleshood...

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:27 am

is it me or every1 that im talking to is stupid today?
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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:28 am

its definately you

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PostSubject: Re: No hope for someone like HIM   Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:33 am

looks like sol admins are not thinking like u do nick, they dont care when they dont get abused, but when they start getting abused, they shed tears LOL
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