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Kyle Katarn




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PostSubject: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 5:35 am

Well,the situation harder for me when I thought...
Now I lost not only good leader,but friend,instructor and a person who I absolutely trusted...He showed the truth and gived lot of lessons,speeches...
Outcast sad that we got to go our own ways,ATS job done...Now,ATS lost its spirit.All stayed is tag.I think maybe it was Outcast wish for all of us to go our own ways...
I dont know how I can stay here...You will have your server soon I see,no need in me any more.I will see what Maximus and Gich will do.If they out-Im too...really I cant stay without Outcast.I got lot of good time with ATS and I think old times can not return.But if Maximus here,I will play a bit and duel a bit.)

Good bye,my dear friend Outcast.I hope troubles will stay away from you.
You done great job,gived some happynes to all clanmembers.When you will be old and will gather near fireplace with your grandsons,you can tell them that you have made best community ever.

Thank you

~Kyle Katarn
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Kernow Pilgrim
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 5:49 am

Ok Kyle...its a shame you have to go mate, Outcast was the one who deleted the forum and server and only gave half of us obscure emails not really saying anything. You shouldn't leave just because he has, yes i agree with you that he gave so much to this game, and the community he created and the friends he made with us are invaulable.

However at the same time i do not agree with him or his methods, now he is not leader I will say he caused a lot of trouble - people hated me because I was in his clan and all he did was ban people like Lusant and Pip and Blue and Aju, people who didn't deserve to be banned. At at the end instead of making a discussion about who will take the clan into their hands he just deletes eveyrthing? Like he was the owner.

As Xaso said to me once yes Outcast created ATS, yes he contributed so much but it doesn't condone deleting it all when you leave. Outcast is not ATS (ie. he is not the clan) and he had no right in my opinion. After months of obscure and hard to translate writing that showed no leadership or patience with those people who didn't deserve to be banned I can only say: well mate you may be a legend but rest assured an infamous legend.

Kyle thank you for you contribution to the clan, you are a fair bloke and tho we had our differences i am glad to end it on a high, goodbye mate and good luck.

~K.P
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 5:53 am

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Kyle Katarn




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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 6:02 am

Outcast sended Email with explanation to me.That means something,means that he carryed about me and didnt wanted to leave me without explanations.
He wasnt owner of clan but the owner of website and server...And...and it wasnt really big surprise for me...I repeat same thing I sad to Ajunta Pall when he leaved:"You got to better listen Outcast."Outcasts actions,speeches showed me that it is not for long time he with us.Was only question of time.Anyway,it not makes me feel better.
You know,maybe it is stuped,but I wanted him to proud of me.

~Thank you
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 6:10 am

Im Agree with Xaso :/
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Kernow Pilgrim
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 6:13 am

Which means u agree with me! xD
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeMon 14 Dec 2009, 10:34 am

i agree with you kernow but come on kyle u can't just leave cuz outcast left u,U have much more friends in ATS or outside of ATS than just Outcast and the admins you also have me as a friend as well after all of those times i have been dueling you i found in u somebody that might one day help ATS in time of need even if i didn't know that this might happen i knew that u can help ATS and now's the time to help
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 2:22 am

mmm i do have an opinion but im gona keep it to myself. :/
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 3:00 am

We haven't lost spirit, we must show that we, as a group, are able to rise up if we fall.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 4:42 am

ATS will be alive kyle, you said things that i think too, outcast was all these things for me, is difficult to start again without him, but we can do it.

Dont worry mate, we can do it Very Happy
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Kyle Katarn




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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 6:00 am

Outcast wanted all of us to go our own way.We have done our job,and done it great.Many psevdoclans and rats are failed.We cleared way for newguyes.I will do the last Outcasts wish-starting new future and going my own way.I quoting Outcast:"Past is a past,important only future."In his latter Outcast wrote:"Not my interest explanation, just tell them."Thats why Im telling you that we finished,all.
I can not support you all in this deal.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 6:11 am

bb then... but i ask u to not spread this dark athmosphere... when u dont have any hope... dont steal them from us...
bbut i wish u th ebst and take are
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 8:16 am

So kyle, Good Bye, Thank you for being so... honest?... Well BB friend, cya soon, take care
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 8:20 am

sad man well take care Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 8:50 am

You were my padawan, you were a great dueler, you were a great friend.


I will miss you a lot kyle.

Take care, Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeTue 15 Dec 2009, 1:11 pm


Pardon me, but you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn about what Outcast thinks......

Good Luck.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeWed 16 Dec 2009, 8:42 am

Outcast was a good administrator in the clan ATS. Too bad that is gone Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeWed 16 Dec 2009, 10:34 am

no he wasnt
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeWed 16 Dec 2009, 10:38 am

he was a good forum administrator... the forum was ftw!
but on server... he made many ppl hate him... not only those, who dont matter if they hate him... even other
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeWed 16 Dec 2009, 10:41 am

It was development......i wonder myself how i would change if i played as long as him.
Age and time changes perspective and we mustn't forget that.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Dec 2009, 2:02 am

Ye as Xaso said, Outcast was awesome forum admin, really cool forum, design, helpfull ... nice
But on server...., he made good things like /amrcon exec server1/2/ctf , but when he saw something like 'o.o-XX or fod-XX connected' that person was out and ban. He didnt chance to these ppl = ATS started be hate in JK2.
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Dec 2009, 3:42 am

yes hek is right when you to other server with the tag "ATS" many players say ""ohh man look an ATS kick his ASS ""
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Dec 2009, 4:41 am

Hektor is right, some ppl are still laming ats guys cause he dont know that outcast leave, yesterday in zof server a guy started lame me because im ats, and then boss (or azzy i dont remember Razz) said to him, our new alliance and he stop..


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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Dec 2009, 4:45 am

Ye, because Azzy and Boss know it, it will know all jk2 soon ^^ they wear much tags ...
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PostSubject: Re: New way...   New way... Icon_minitimeThu 17 Dec 2009, 5:09 am

I think peoples anger will fall with outcast's leave. So, maybe you have to be nice with all.
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