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Samfp



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PostSubject: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 6:58 am

- Within the past hour I was banned on SoL, presumably both servers, for the length of 1 week by Zelah.

- I was warned once to stop laming, after which I made a reference to a previous incident, saying 'no, i'm going to ignore what you ask me to do'

- I was then slept within a minute, understandably.

- I reconnected and rejoined the game

- ???

- 1 week ban

- I was also blocked on all forms of communication by Zelah so this could not be explained to me nor resolved.

- All of these actions were also taken out on Sanyo with ZERO warnings whatsover, before sleep, or before ban.

(mild laming occured prior to this for 10 minutes)

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Zelah



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 6:59 am

I'm not going to listen to anything you say Smile

Gg
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EpicJK2
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:01 am

This previous incident was you and Sanyo hunting Enel and you asking me and Zelah not to join in. After we did and it became an actually pretty fun FFA, you both got annoyed. I wasn't there when you got banned but I hope you weren't laming everyone and had an attitude about Zel asking you not to lame, just because me and Zel joined in an FFA.
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:04 am

Zelah wrote:
I'm not going to listen to anything you say Smile

Gg

This is for the attention of the clan I love you

Epic, no I'm not bothered by that at all, I would have done the same probably, I said it jokingly to Zelan.
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EpicJK2
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:06 am

Then why go on a laming spree on our server?
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:06 am

'spree' 5-10 minutes in between duels vs 1 guy
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Zelah



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:07 am

It's not a joke when you send that and that continue doing it' to everyone else. And yes the whole clan can look at ur response to me when I asked you to lay off the people not doing anything. My response was a direct quote from u
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Sanyo



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:07 am

Epic we never told anyone to not join in. And whatever we did its new to me that Sol just take actions without any warning.
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:07 am

Sanyo wrote:
Epic we never told anyone to not join in. And whatever we did its new to me that Sol just take actions without any warning.

I asked them not to join in, Zelah asked me to not lame a guy, both were ignored
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EpicJK2
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:09 am

Sam told me to join in Sanyo in a pm. I didn't because I thought Enel knew you were 'training' him but when I realized he didn't we joined in.
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:10 am

Why was Sanyo banned for 1 week without warning please?
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Danek
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:10 am

Christ, what on earth happened here?
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Sanyo



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:10 am

whatever that has to do with today epic Razz
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Zelah



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:11 am

Samfp wrote:
Sanyo wrote:
Epic we never told anyone to not join in. And whatever we did its new to me that Sol just take actions without any warning.

I asked them not to join in, Zelah asked me to not lame a guy, both were ignored

lol if u cant see the difference in that...

Epic, Joe, and I joined in while you were ganging a member of our clan who clearly didn't want to be ganged. I asked you to stop killing random people on the server who had no beef with you. Notice I said nothing when you guys were ganging me whether it was a joke or not. But when you took it to the others on server its not a disagreement between a small group or more
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EpicJK2
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:12 am

Sanyo wrote:
whatever that has to do with today epic Razz

Because it was the catalyst for you 2 coming in today and laming people.
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:13 am

this is almost laughable. I was given 1 warning, I considered you a friend enough that you could take a few kills from either of us.

The only warning I was given was once by Zelah, and didn't lame after that.

I was slept, reconnected, then banned.

Sanyo received no warnings at all at any time.
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Sanyo



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:14 am

sicne nobody telling me anything i must guess its something personal?
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Reaver



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:15 am

I understand you want to "feed your beast" in a JK2 but their are most likely other servers where this kind of behavior is tolerated rather than SoL. If you want to lame you should try another server. Lastly, remember that SoL rules state you have to follow through with being slept, which you tried to dodge.

What I have to say:

Whenever you get the notion to say 'no' to a serious administrator, don't do it. What part of you made you think it was a good idea to start with? Doing some 'mild laming' and saying 'no' to an administrator? You may have found that all in good humor, but did you think Zelah would find that in good humor? Before you told Zelah 'no' did you bother to ask yourself "Is what I am about to say a good idea?" Or, did you act rashly and say it anyway? YOU may have remembered a previous incident, but maybe Zelah did not. Try to look at things from both views.
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Zelah



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:17 am

Samfp wrote:
this is almost laughable. I was given 1 warning, I considered you a friend enough that you could take a few kills from either of us.

The only warning I was given was once by Zelah, and didn't lame after that.

I was slept, reconnected, then banned.

Sanyo received no warnings at all at any time.

It is almost laughable.  Like I said I made no comments when you guys killed me.  And you and Sanyo reconnected after admin actions which is a bannable offense i had every right to ban you.  If you don't want to be banned... dont tell an admin your not going to listen to anything he says. Why would I waste my time giving warning after warning? It's illogical
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Samfp



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:18 am

Reaver wrote:
I understand you want to "feed your beast" in a JK2 but their are most likely other servers where this kind of behavior is tolerated rather than SoL. If you want to lame you should try another server. Lastly, remember that SoL rules state you have to follow through with being slept, which you tried to dodge.

What I have to say:

Whenever you get the notion to say 'no' to a serious administrator, don't do it. What part of you made you think it was a good idea to start with? Doing some 'mild laming' and saying 'no' to an administrator? You may have found that all in good humor, but did you think Zelah would find that in good humor? Before you told Zelah 'no' did you bother to ask yourself "Is what I am about to say a good idea?" Or, did you act rashly and say it anyway? YOU may have remembered a previous incident, but maybe Zelah did not. Try to look at things from both views.

I understand what you are saying, but understand the context. I have known and played closely with Zelah for a long time, we do not have the kind of relationship that would involve an unnecessary ban such as this. Alot of things I say are to be taken with a pinch of salt and Zelah knows that, He also knew I was referring to another incident satirically.

This is uncharacteristically severe and I do not understand how it is justified for the purpose of around 5 lame kills MAXIMUM, and one warning, one reconnect.
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ExiDux
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:20 am

this is what happens to SoL when i am not playing and doing my monthly stress tests on the admins and mods.
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EpicJK2
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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:23 am

I think everyone involved in this needs to take a step back for an hour, just chill a bit and think about how daft all this is.

As we are all taking a step back I will ask HCs to check the logs and we will discuss the ban internally.
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Proballboy



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:23 am

As I have heard more of the situation and something needs to be done about this I am going to give the rules to you Sam.

Harassment of other players is against the rules, and continuing to harass a player despite Admin warnings will result in a ban.

You are banned for a week. This will continue for Sanyo because you both have done the same thing and knew the consequences.
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Zelah



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:24 am

Samfp wrote:
Reaver wrote:
I understand you want to "feed your beast" in a JK2 but their are most likely other servers where this kind of behavior is tolerated rather than SoL. If you want to lame you should try another server. Lastly, remember that SoL rules state you have to follow through with being slept, which you tried to dodge.

What I have to say:

Whenever you get the notion to say 'no' to a serious administrator, don't do it. What part of you made you think it was a good idea to start with? Doing some 'mild laming' and saying 'no' to an administrator? You may have found that all in good humor, but did you think Zelah would find that in good humor? Before you told Zelah 'no' did you bother to ask yourself "Is what I am about to say a good idea?" Or, did you act rashly and say it anyway? YOU may have remembered a previous incident, but maybe Zelah did not. Try to look at things from both views.

I understand what you are saying, but understand the context. I have known and played closely with Zelah for a long time, we do not have the kind of relationship that would involve an unnecessary ban such as this. Alot of things I say are to be taken with a pinch of salt and Zelah knows that, He also knew I was referring to another incident satirically.

This is uncharacteristically severe and I do not understand how it is justified for the purpose of around 5 lame kills MAXIMUM, and one warning, one reconnect.

It was more than 5 lame kills and you know it. Reconnecting means I'm supposed to ban you. It did not cross through my mind that you were referencing the situation with Enel because i was frankly too surprised you would even respond like that and if you were... that was a really stupid time to reference it. We didn't set an official time limit for the ban yet. 1 week is just the regular stage 1 ban but we don't always go with stage 1 right away
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Reaver



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PostSubject: Re: Banned   Mon 01 Sep 2014, 7:24 am

Samfp wrote:
Reaver wrote:
I understand you want to "feed your beast" in a JK2 but their are most likely other servers where this kind of behavior is tolerated rather than SoL. If you want to lame you should try another server. Lastly, remember that SoL rules state you have to follow through with being slept, which you tried to dodge.

What I have to say:

Whenever you get the notion to say 'no' to a serious administrator, don't do it. What part of you made you think it was a good idea to start with? Doing some 'mild laming' and saying 'no' to an administrator? You may have found that all in good humor, but did you think Zelah would find that in good humor? Before you told Zelah 'no' did you bother to ask yourself "Is what I am about to say a good idea?" Or, did you act rashly and say it anyway? YOU may have remembered a previous incident, but maybe Zelah did not. Try to look at things from both views.

I understand what you are saying, but understand the context. I have known and played closely with Zelah for a long time, we do not have the kind of relationship that would involve an unnecessary ban such as this. Alot of things I say are to be taken with a pinch of salt and Zelah knows that, He also knew I was referring to another incident satirically.

This is uncharacteristically severe and I do not understand how it is justified for the purpose of around 5 lame kills MAXIMUM, and one warning, one reconnect.
And I understand you feel cheated in this aspect, personally if this were ATS I would berate Zelah, but this isn't that clan and SoL has much more what I would consider lenient rules. Earlier today you already got on Zelah's nerves by pretending to be him at the tournament. By this time, Zelah most likely had very low tolerance for you. I understand you and him have a general good relationship with eachother. But often times what is right is tossed aside by rules and discontent. If you do not believe me on the last part, their is multiple evidence of this across history. What I feel transpired was a dire miscommunication between you two.
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