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PostSubject: Re: Underage Photos??   Underage Photos?? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 20 Jun 2011, 2:28 am

First topic message reminder :

I've had to delete the pictures posted by Roxy due to infringement of forumotion policy restrictions towards graphic content and potentially underage photography that could lead to the deletion of the entire forum for violation of these rules. Please be more careful when uploading personal pictures that isn't a birdseye view down a cleavage.

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just remember that there are many kids here, which are 15/14/13 or even less i guess
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wehr wrote:
Well Roxy, you told me before in server that you did. And as someone that shares a common ancestry with you I'd like to see you show more self respect.

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Keep in mind ppl love to imposter me. I never said i do drugs. I only drink socially on occasions Laughing
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Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
Same country, same age, but evidently not the same upbringing or social moralities.

Basically, you think you're better than me?

The pictures of roxy didnt bother me one fly a kite bit, why the hell would they? What did bother me was you feeling you had the right to delete those pictures for no good reason without a word to anybody. Just admit it, you shouldnt have deleted them, you know you shouldnt...

Lol @ wehr, what an extremist attitude, you need to get out more mate and live a little. Banning all those things when you hypothetically come to power, its just ridiculous. I would rather see prostitution legal, monitored, controlled and above all, safe, than see it illegal, where it cannot be controlled and regulated and where the industry would have a high potential health risks. Postitution legalised for me, all day long.

Banning gambling ey? Putting thousends of working people out of jobs, yeah thats sensible of you. Maybe we should just shut down Las Vegas right now ey? A place that brings millions and millions of dollars into the USA. My mates, have been to Vegas, they wasted a fortune and still absolutely loved it, why deny people that luxury? How utterly selfish. Im not a gambler myself, but i have no problem with people having a cheeky bet here and there. Pahaps the industry could do with tighter spending limits so that it could halt addiction, but the addicted only need to look at themselves, not the industry. Theres nothing wrong with a gamble in moderation.

Smoking? Yeah ok, i can kind of agree with this, but just banning smoking isnt fair, your putting millions of people, who are too far gone to quit, and potentiall putting them in huge problems. If you wanted to ban smoking, you have to start with the next generation.

On the other hand, whatever happened to liberation? Who are we to tell other people what they can or cannot do with their own bodies and/or possessions?

On the whole, you wont have my vote for President Wehr Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Underage Photos??   Underage Photos?? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Jun 2011, 7:17 am

Phoenix, who said anything about president??? On prostitution: If you had a daughter that needed money I'm sure you'd feel it's ok for her to whore herself out then, right? What if a condom broke and she acquired AIDs? They do break you know, or maybe you don't. lol

Mereel, just let him have his say. Part of this conversation was concerning censorship.

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What slaves! This discussion has stole all the attention from my pro post.

Roxy wrote:
wehr wrote:
Well Roxy, you told me before in server that you did. And as someone that shares a common ancestry with you I'd like to see you show more self respect.

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Keep in mind ppl love to imposter me. I never said i do drugs. I only drink socially on occasions Laughing

I drink all the time (Pro whine Cool ).



Lol but as to the new discussion, there are three types of people in the world. The most two common are those that either aim too high or low. Kernow for example, aims too high. Basically he is like the nun in the movie "Doubt", or the hunter in "The Night of the Hunter". lol!

First of all even if you post explicit lists of p0rn on this website, the best that will probably happen is they will find out in a couple of weekz/months (unless someone would report it which makes it into days.) And if it's limited, they will probably warn you, if not they will delete it and ban the main creators IP (That's at worst). Lol cleavage shots.. This will never happen especially at forumotion. If there is a stripper with a thong and one of those slim braws (Lol). It is still eligible. Forumotions audience isn't 6 year olds, it's everyone.

Yes the main people on this forum are 12-20. I seen cleavage shots in PG rated movies.. And I seen worse stuff on other "forumotion" forums.

Also democratically (lol "The Torch of Fair Play and Bonfire of Equality and Democracy") has turned into more of a corrupted-government communism. Why? See the problem is pretty much everyone except 10 percent of people don't agree on something that there is no law for. Basically that means that the admins get to do w.e. they want despite everyone in clan disagreeing until they get reelected. That's more of a communistic approach then a democratic. Cool

So lawfully it's incorrect, morally it's extreme, biblical it's specific & controversial, and democratically it's incorrect.
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PostSubject: Re: Underage Photos??   Underage Photos?? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Jun 2011, 9:12 am

i lol'd
communism xP is if THAT was the idea(l) of communism XP
its not about doing what you want and then fake elections to get elected again...
we dont fake elections, and we dont do whatever we want. everything can be discussed as you see, and youre discussions aint censored... as long as you dont spam fly a kite like phoenix xP
the deletion of the pictures was a thing of "national security"... if you consider that as communistic, then the usa, france, germany and any other powerful state on the world would be communistic xP
and communism isnt the opposite of democracy. the opposite of democracy is monarchy or dictatorship. you can have a democratic or a monarchic communism... or even an oligarchic, which is the reign of a few.
stalinism is a monarchic communism. the gdr was an oligarchic communism. and chile had a democratic communism for 3 years, until the usa destroyed it and replaced it with a fascist dictatorship.
and now visit a library and then get informed about those stuff and dont throw around with words you dont really understand Smile

btw, will soon posts fotos :>

edit: soz guys, the fotos arent here atm, gonna upload them lator :>


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wehr wrote:
Phoenix, who said anything about president??? On prostitution: If you had a daughter that needed money I'm sure you'd feel it's ok for her to whore herself out then, right? What if a condom broke and she acquired AIDs? They do break you know, or maybe you don't. lol

Mereel, just let him have his say. Part of this conversation was concerning censorship.

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Lol my daughter be a whore, no fly a kite thank you. Of course I wouldnt fly a kite like it, but at the end of the day, women still do it! Maybe she would do it anyway even if i objected, i would hate it, but i would rather she did it legitimately where it was regulated and above board, then illegally where her health is even at greater risk. To be honest, i would probably disown her, but that doesnt mean prostitution needs to be illegal, the reason why, is because illegal or legitimate, girls are still going to do it, i would rather they did it safely. Even if i did hate it, which i obviously would, it being legal is the lesser of two evils.

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Who are we to tell other people what they can or cannot do with their own bodies and/or possessions?
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Xasomur wrote:
i lol'd
communism xP is if THAT was the idea(l) of communism XP
its not about doing what you want and then fake elections to get elected again...
we dont fake elections, and we dont do whatever we want. everything can be discussed as you see, and youre discussions aint censored... as long as you dont spam fly a kite like phoenix xP
the deletion of the pictures was a thing of "national security"... if you consider that as communistic, then the usa, france, germany and any other powerful state on the world would be communistic xP
and communism isnt the opposite of democracy. the opposite of democracy is monarchy or dictatorship. you can have a democratic or a monarchic communism... or even an oligarchic, which is the reign of a few.
stalinism is a monarchic communism. the gdr was an oligarchic communism. and chile had a democratic communism for 3 years, until the usa destroyed it and replaced it with a fascist dictatorship.
and now visit a library and then get informed about those stuff and dont throw around with words you dont really understand Smile

btw, will soon posts fotos :>

edit: soz guys, the fotos arent here atm, gonna upload them lator :>

Ehh? When did I ever say communism is the opposite of democracy and that communism is when you fake elections? Don't object to things I didn't say. Cool

national security.. not at all. If the president of the United States wanted to ban all pictures in the USA that contain cleavage, he cannot do so unless he makes like 4 different laws for this which will all have to be passed through 3 different houses and all that cr@p. If that could ever somehow possibly happen, it's gonna attack people's freedom of speech and cause great chaos (rebellions, etc.).

1. The idea of communism (the non-corrupted kind) is that everyone regardless of there skill or what there good at is equal. Basically everyone is on the same class.

2. The idea of democracy, is that the people control mostly government. However there are classes like in USA. Poor, Middle, Rich, etc..

Now tell me which one does SOL fit in the most? The only thing SOL members seem to control is who gets voted. And that's pretty much it. Everyone's on the same level (Except the government - like in communism). That's not good enough to be called democracy. So read more books!

Actually no books are really necessary just to get the idea of how the basics works. It's really simple, you just have to not try to make it complicated. Most things are really simple to understand unless your one-sided. Cool
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you are a moderator sebbat... Razz and when you did your job we can go on explain to laffy that communism is a social and political theory and utopia while democracy is a form of government. so you can have a communist democracy... or a democratic communism... but in such context its more likely to talk about socialist democracy, as communism, even for marx, is an utopia, which will be reached, if it can be reached, through socialism...
if you want to make any statement about the system of sol you have to get a clue what you talk about. were not a state, and we dont live in this game. no way to think about socialism, communism, capitalism or facism and all that stuff. but truely sol has a kind of government. and when you talk about that you can use terms like monarchy, dictatorship, oligarchy, democracy, republic, aristocracy and many many more... but you mix things up, and what comes out in the end is a bunch of nonsense.
not only that you have no clue about the words you use, you have no clue about sol. any member can participate and have his influence like any council member. and the admins have no political say per se. political everyone has the same importance in what he is saying. those who have to take the decision in the end, are taking the opinions voiced by the rest of the members more serious, than any existing democracy in the world... Smile
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Due to request of Sebb, and because I was getting tired of it, I split the topics. Argue here, and next time listen to the mods!!!

Have fun, I don't care what you guys do. Be at each other's throats for all I care. But do not spam a perfectly nice topic with non-related shit.
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Xasomur wrote:
when you did your job we can go on explain to laffy that communism is a social and political theory and utopia while democracy is a form of government. so you can have a communist democracy... or a democratic communism... but in such context its more likely to talk about socialist democracy, as communism, even for marx, is an utopia, which will be reached, if it can be reached, through socialism...
if you want to make any statement about the system of sol you have to get a clue what you talk about. were not a state, and we dont live in this game. no way to think about socialism, communism, capitalism or facism and all that stuff. but truely sol has a kind of government. and when you talk about that you can use terms like monarchy, dictatorship, oligarchy, democracy, republic, aristocracy and many many more... but you mix things up, and what comes out in the end is a bunch of nonsense.
not only that you have no clue about the words you use, you have no clue about sol. any member can participate and have his influence like any council member. and the admins have no political say per se. political everyone has the same importance in what he is saying. those who have to take the decision in the end, are taking the opinions voiced by the rest of the members more serious, than any existing democracy in the world... Smile
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Democracy and communism can be defined as many things, however the most obvious is there both defined as political systems. What you're doing is mixing the terms of political philosophy with economics, etc. Lets do some research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopolitical (Don't hate on Wikipedia Cool )

influence? Lol influence is allowed pretty much anywhere except in corrupted forms of governments. Dictatorship and such is an exception of banning unwanted influence. Lol, not in communism and democracy.

"were not a state, and we dont live in this game. no way to think about socialism, communism, capitalism or facism and all that stuff."
Then why does the SOL tagline say: "The Torch of Fair Play and Bonfire of Equality and Democracy" LOL
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I do not know anything about politics or w.e that is. :L
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Mereel, good job on moving this to new spot...

See Phoenix, when it comes to your family you begin to think differently about prostitution. Prostitution is immoral and it preys on the disadvantaged.

Smoking: Just look at the health related toll.

If I were king I'd mandate people walk at least 2 miles everyday as well. To many chubbies out there that play games all day and don't do any physical activities.

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Everyone twists and turns democracy for their own benefit, not understanding it's basic meaning.

Laaf wrote:
1. The idea of communism (the non-corrupted kind) is that everyone regardless of there skill or what there good at is equal. Basically everyone is on the same class.

2. The idea of democracy, is that the people control mostly government. However there are classes like in USA. Poor, Middle, Rich, etc..

Now tell me which one does SOL fit in the most? The only thing SOL members seem to control is who gets voted. And that's pretty much it. Everyone's on the same level (Except the government - like in communism). That's not good enough to be called democracy. So read more books!

I'd love to be like Communism Laaaf. But what communism are you talking about? The theory kind or the practised kind?

Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Every SoL member has one vote each to make clan decisions and elections. This is where the basis of equality and democracy comes from. It has nothing to do with political complications, arguments, bans or administration.
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laaf, you dont get it. Ideologies, such as communism, socialism, fascism and capitalism are, like i already said social and political - if u want sociopolitical - theories...
Democracy and dictatorship are forms of a government...
You can combine any kind of ideology to any kinf of government. There is no opposition of communism and democracy... You just use an unliked word in a wrong context to blame something u have no clue about...
thats called trolling
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Owned, LoL.
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I didn't see the picture, so I can't particularly judge it, but it sounds like Kernow made the right decision, or at the very least erred on the better, safer side. You don't have to be able to see tits, asses, or genitalia explicitly for it to fall under the realm of child pornography. I was just on 4chan the other day, arguably the asshole of the internet, and a user was instantly banned for posting suggestive photos of potentially underage girls, even though they were technically covered up.

I don't view this as an issue of censoring someone, it's an issue of covering our own asses. The Admins of the forum are responsible for the content, but the whole community would feel the repercussions of forum deletion.

Myspace cleavage shots are fine if the pose itself isn't explicitly suggestive, and it sounds like that's what this photo was. Still, it's unfair to jump down Kernow's throat for making a reasonable decision for the safety of all that we've built on the forum.
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Nick I fully agree with you, and we should continue practicing that in the future. But I will repeat:

Roxy herself is not underage!!!

If she was, then w/e. But she isn't, so.....


But w/e, I still think Kernow made the right decision. Smile
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Skambak wrote:
Owned, LoL.

No, you fail.


Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
Everyone twists and turns democracy for their own benefit, not understanding it's basic meaning.

Laaf wrote:
1. The idea of communism (the non-corrupted kind) is that everyone regardless of there skill or what there good at is equal. Basically everyone is on the same class.

2. The idea of democracy, is that the people control mostly government. However there are classes like in USA. Poor, Middle, Rich, etc..

Now tell me which one does SOL fit in the most? The only thing SOL members seem to control is who gets voted. And that's pretty much it. Everyone's on the same level (Except the government - like in communism). That's not good enough to be called democracy. So read more books!

I'd love to be like Communism Laaaf. But what communism are you talking about? The theory kind or the practised kind?

Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Every SoL member has one vote each to make clan decisions and elections. This is where the basis of equality and democracy comes from. It has nothing to do with political complications, arguments, bans or administration.

We are talking about basic theory (idea, the basic description, etc.), Democracy is a form of government that shares the power with the people. Voting isn't really much, especially in SOL considering noone gives lectures or w.e. It's too childish, more about trust, and too experimental for a simple clan with less then 100 people. It's like vote for me and see! Ya democracy fail loL.


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laaf, you dont get it. Ideologies, such as communism, socialism, fascism and capitalism are, like i already said social and political - if u want sociopolitical - theories...
Democracy and dictatorship are forms of a government...
You can combine any kind of ideology to any kinf of government. There is no opposition of communism and democracy... You just use an unliked word in a wrong context to blame something u have no clue about...
thats called trolling

Problem is you're just making it more complicated then it really is. Yes communism is an unliked word and that's why you have "democracy" there instead of "communism". lol!
And no its not trolling, you're just mad that all those outdated text books you read resulted to confusion and incorrect basic understanding. In other words = Epic Fail lolol.

-Anyways, you guys went off the main point once again. Trying to avoid being exposed by focusing on more FUD stuff (ex: No he called us communistic, h4lp!) (Nixon style - Lol)
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omg u pro... communism isnt the opposite of democracy... you can be communist and democratic... you cant argue like that...
it would be as if you are saying: YOU ARENT TALL, YOU ARE GREEN ... -.-
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Xasomur wrote:
omg u pro... communism isnt the opposite of democracy... you can be communist and democratic... you cant argue like that...
it would be as if you are saying: YOU ARENT TALL, YOU ARE GREEN ... -.-

Well in that case, instead of having "The Torch of Fair Play and Bonfire of Equality and Democracy" why won't you have "The Torch of Fair Play and Bonfire of Equality, Democracy and Communism". LOL
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Oka U guys talk To much i Can't Be Bothered to read all them Essays to much for me And I think In A way of Speaking What Ker Did Was the right thing. Exposing you're Self On the Web Is a bit out of Necessarily Not Needed To The People Arround the World you hardly Know 1there are Quiet a few people Young on this forum to See stuff like that If you want to upload photo's Like that Why Not Upload them In FB where People Care About it.


In Here Is More At lest Game,chat,But Non [sexual Chatting ] if you want send Pictures like that Goto Another Forum and Do it. Because At the End Of the Day These Forums Are Monitored Most of the time And If they come Across Unnecessarily Pictures Never Know Who's watching.

Besides this is a game forum not Social Chat like FS,FB,MS,MSN, Send your pictures there not here. only sensible Ones.
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lawl... but you dont understand communism as i do.
i cant apply communism to a internet community. it can imho opinion only applied to a real people. we here share only some role playing if you so want. we dont share our lives ... not too much anyway
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Another reason: it doesn't sound as good.
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I'll be honest...how did you get four pages out of this...
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