WONDERFUl!!!! Every word he said is just true. But human nature just steps out in some of us which destroys everything he said
Skambak Sith Adept
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Sat 17 Sep 2011, 5:38 am
WHAT THE HELL! HE HAS JUST STOLEN MY SPEACH. BASTARD!
Boogieman Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Sat 17 Sep 2011, 11:30 pm
Xasomur
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Sun 18 Sep 2011, 2:08 am
sorry boogie ^^ that was a declaration of war and the attempt to make ppl give away their individuality and trust their own power of decision to the mastermind of a superior government. there were better speeches boogie even by lenin
Boogieman Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Wed 21 Sep 2011, 5:15 am
Xasomur wrote:
sorry boogie ^^ that was a declaration of war and the attempt to make ppl give away their individuality and trust their own power of decision to the mastermind of a superior government. there were better speeches boogie even by lenin
Tell me one man that inspired millions of workers and peasants to revolt against a army loyal to a monarchist/leader.
Xasomur
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Wed 21 Sep 2011, 5:42 am
i guess you already know pugatschow... but if you really mean millions, you have to look over to china... any revolt there contains MILLIONS of ppl, just because they're so many ppl there, always been. if you want NAMES i tell you fan chong. peasant revolt leader somewhat near birth of christ. or Zhang Jue, peasant revolt leader somewhen bout the 3rd century
but if youre ok with it, when the revolt wasnt that big, but more important for our history, then i tell you wat tyler and nils dacke or thomas müntzer
the point wasnt that i dislike lenin. i just said lenin had better speeches. and i said, that i rather appreciate when ppl emphazise the peaceful power of the very individual. you cant deny that lenin was militarist. but i dislike militarism.
Power Sith Lord
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Wed 21 Sep 2011, 7:52 am
And...? O.o?
Boogieman Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Wed 21 Sep 2011, 8:05 am
Xasomur wrote:
i guess you already know pugatschow... but if you really mean millions, you have to look over to china... any revolt there contains MILLIONS of ppl, just because they're so many ppl there, always been. if you want NAMES i tell you fan chong. peasant revolt leader somewhat near birth of christ. or Zhang Jue, peasant revolt leader somewhen bout the 3rd century
but if youre ok with it, when the revolt wasnt that big, but more important for our history, then i tell you wat tyler and nils dacke or thomas müntzer
the point wasnt that i dislike lenin. i just said lenin had better speeches. and i said, that i rather appreciate when ppl emphazise the peaceful power of the very individual. you cant deny that lenin was militarist. but i dislike militarism.
I also dislike militarism but the reason why the communist countries such as the Soviet union had so much military was because former super powers such as the Nazi Germany for example and then the USA started the cold war that pushed them to the limit.
Remember the Red Army was established by the workers and peasants, not the tsarist army.
Xasomur
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Wed 21 Sep 2011, 10:15 am
of course. without an army russia would have been either taken by nazis or vanished by the usa. but who said i liked nazis or usa more? ^^ what i disliked at the speech was, that it calling ppl to grap arms. you could have chosen another, not so war-like, speech of lenin
Boogieman Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Thu 22 Sep 2011, 12:06 am
Xasomur wrote:
of course. without an army russia would have been either taken by nazis or vanished by the usa. but who said i liked nazis or usa more? ^^ what i disliked at the speech was, that it calling ppl to grap arms. you could have chosen another, not so war-like, speech of lenin
Lenin had no choice but to start a civil war to remove the capitalist influence in Russia.
Xasomur
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Thu 22 Sep 2011, 5:20 am
even if he was forced to go a dubious way of war i dont have to like a speech of him incite ppl to grap the arms... so i like better the speech of chaplin
Boogieman Jedi Master
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Subject: Re: THIS. IS. EPIC. Sun 02 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm
Xasomur wrote:
even if he was forced to go a dubious way of war i dont have to like a speech of him incite ppl to grap the arms... so i like better the speech of chaplin
Do you feel forced to "like" Lenins glorious speech comrade Xaso? No. I posted his speech here because it could also be under the same title as the topic is named.