As those with oppinions...

Hey m8s,

Simple post I want to post here, nothing too groundbraking or anything.

First of, why is ATS fighting itself? Seems to me like we're all turning into ppl that cut ourselves and let new blood into our systems, other people's blood. Basically we're acting
Emo, don't want to be too metaphorical. 2 sides of the same thing - come on ladies and gents, think for yourselves.

Perhaps a third server should be made, here both 'sides' can play. I'm guilty to you guys, of being on the old server, just how lame is that? I don't want to think for you an' give orders. I ain't got that right here. But perhaps a odd number will solve our problems.

I'll see to the server if people want it. While I've been thinking about this myself, I've made my oppinion that good leadership gives one something to aspire towards, if there is democracy in the leader's words.

Outcast has made many, many mistakes, so has Max and some others including me. I think it's time to build that 3rd server and share it, FTP and all, let's fix this once and for all.

make outcast listen to us, and make him accept that we are not the mud under his feet

Perhaps a third forum should be made too.

Its a feasable idea that could settle some bad blood but if a third server is created who is going to pay for it. Dont forget that myself, nick, xaso, kernow and vort (i think) and others are paying for the one we are using and i dont think any of us want to pay any more money than we already are.

And dont forget that we are all very happy with our new ATS. We have found peace and unity amongst ourselves and maybe trying to settle our differences with the old ATS will lead to more harm than good, idk.

Perhaps we ought to use Out's server, that wouldn't be a third server then though... I could host one.

No one has to pay anything, we all agree that no one should. I'll host a server at home.

Outcast hasn't spoken to me in a while, Max has though. On his server it's easy to notice the division, I really hate it.

Outcast ignores us as if we were nothing but his slaves, tell him to listen to us or we won't make any more efforts to "compromise" if that's even possible for Outcast...

I'll make the server, Outcast is currently on vacation though.

Xasomur wrote:

make outcast listen to us, and make him accept that we are not the mud under his feet

that says it all

I want to go onto a server and say hi without loyalty being a problem. I just want to get this business done, it's so lame.

haha, loyalty isn't the point. Here it's being honnest, and fair.

Okay, I'll remember that.

lol karma for kernow for his nice quote from layer cake XD!

Yeah im mean abrum u are very welcome to joins us on server because we are friendly with you, but making another server we can all "exsist harmoneously" just isnt going to work i think,
It will surely lead to arguements and more back blood ,and while at first on this new server u propose we may keep thing mature and cival towards the old ATS, stopping any arguemnts from starting would be like time bomb waiting to blow up!

Because of the difference of opinion, both sides would be trying to bite there tongues and and stop arguement but it would only be a matter of time before something surely kicked off between old ATS and new ATS and then we would be at loggerheads again!

Plus im worried about outcast, he may say his intentions are good, but if we start sharing a server with him again i could be the first step of him wanting to gain control of us.

The same kind of principle applies to forum in fact the forum would probably be worse. I just dont think we can co-exsist with arguements and confrontations.

So while your proposal does have a perpose and some good points, i just dont think it will work. Its too soon i think, maybe an idea in the future but i think we need to wait quite some time and let all this bad blood blow over.

I understand that you want this matter resolved and for ATS to be at peace again but its just too soon......

Yeah, I gave them back. I don't see why we need to fight like this, no one seems to be willing to work anything out to let me test maps but Outcast, I'll be testing Artus on his server soon. Can't blame me if I want to map. I'll come on more I guess.

Did he send it ? You can send to me, if you want. I can do it, i am not modder, skinner, mapper, but i can upload, make teleports xD and basic server settings .... you can send me.

Kernow Pilgrim wrote:

Well I am annoyed at HC - because Abrum sent stuff to someone..mereel i think it was. Anyway obviously nothing happened there so meh. :/

The proper place for mods is the Synergy section. If Mereel was given these files and didn't upload them, it's probably because he had reservations with using mods previously on the old server. Kernow I've got to say I'm a bit hurt that you've made this statement. We have had this server for only 16 days, and with admins crashing it constantly we're switching things up to make it more stable. I'm not sure what you have to be annoyed at.