Excuse me....

Who in the F uck banned me from the server with no cause?

Vader wrote:

Angel banned for harassing a specific player on multiple occasions. I was talking to them, and they did not say they had enough of him. Only until later did I find out that this person was very sad because of the situation. A day ban will not do anything, Angel needs to know how to act, and WHEN to act. Therefore a week ban has been placed for his great misbehavior.

All admins agree with the ban. You were being a jerk, case closed.

Vader wrote:

Vader wrote:

Angel banned for harassing a specific player on multiple occasions. I was talking to them, and they did not say they had enough of him. Only until later did I find out that this person was very sad because of the situation. A day ban will not do anything, Angel needs to know how to act, and WHEN to act. Therefore a week ban has been placed for his great misbehavior.

All admins agree with the ban. You were being a jerk, case closed.

."I was talking to them, and they did not say they had enough of him."

Case closed my ass.

if you want me to stop something you ask me with respect, you don't complain to an admin and ban me without any verbal communication what-so-ever, if people would ask me to stop respectivly I would, since no one talked to me about anything, they are the ones at fault not me.

Ang it is NOT people's duty to tell you to stop. Sometimes it is YOU who have to feel when to stop. If you cant feel what others feel it is YOUR fault not theirs.

And I told you already in previous steam chat that I saw logs and I did see people asking you to stop but you didnt.  

And little advice for you, "close my ass" wont unban you. If you want respect, earn it.

And besides idk wtf you've been told but I don't harrass anyone, the only thing I do when I come on is ffa with toasty, chilly, scorch, and the ocasional padawan.

and even if by chance I harrassed someone once (I am saying maybe cuz my memory is bad and I might have idk) no one told me it was harrassment, no one said "Hey, Angel, please stop", nothing... all I do is get off morrowind and come on jk2 and get a "you are banned" message out of the blue, with no verbal warning, no requests, nothing.

I want to sit down and chat with whoever complained, because they need to be talked to about etiquette and proper protocol.

The only person I "harrass" is mai, and that is a very light joke on my part that has gone on for over 4 years. and she never complained to me directely. anything else is complete bullshit.

this "ban" is very ill-done, no protocol was followed, no one asked for my side of the story, nothing, they just took the first story that sounded decent and banned me without any further investigation.

I seriously wish to be unbanned please. thank you.

KingYodah wrote:

Ang it is NOT people's duty to tell you to stop. Sometimes it is YOU who have to feel when to stop. If you cant feel what others feel it is YOUR fault not theirs.

And I told you already in previous steam chat that I saw logs and I did see people asking you to stop but you didnt.  

And little advice for you, "close my ass" wont unban you. If you want respect, earn it.

I'm not a mind reader yods, if people dont tell me how they feel how am I supposed to know?

In real life it is different, pitch of tone, social ques etc tell a different story, but with text, if you dont say it, its not said.

now that being said, no one asked me to stop anything. at least, I have no recollection of it EVER happening logs or no.


Now I may have been disrespectful in the "closed my ass" statement and I am sorry, I was angry, but to be fair, I was not given respect either, not one gave me warning of a ban (isn't there like a 3 stage system or some shit in place? or did you totally get rid of that?) no one asked for my side of the story (you just went with the complaint and banned me no questions asked). and worse yet, the person that complained to the admin, even vader said never made it known to me that anything bothered them, even at this moment I don't even have any idea what "harassment" you are refering to.

In the future, I will move to try and "harass" people less. BUT, I need people to be able to communicate with me, I am not a mind reader, I'm not the fkin dog whisperer. if something bothers someone they need to make it as evident as the fkin sun TO ME, that it BOTHERS THEM.

Can I be unbanned por favor?

Angelis wrote:

The only person I "harrass" is mai

What was that? I thought you said you don't harass people. She has said many times for you to stop. And you're saying, that you're doing this for 4 fly a kite years? GG.

Vader wrote:

Angelis wrote:

The only person I "harrass" is mai

What was that? I thought you said you don't harass people. She has said many times for you to stop. And you're saying, that you're doing this for 4 fly a kite years? GG.

she has never asked me to stop ever, she has smiled and said "slap slap" etc, but never has she told me it has bothered her and asked me to stop, so GG on you vad.

Do you really want me to get an HC to check logs? Is this really necessary? Stop lieing and wait out your week ban.

Vader wrote:

Do you really want me to get an HC to check logs? Is this really necessary? Stop lieing and wait out your week ban.

yeah get out the fkin logs, I want to see this, cuz I am dead serious, she has never asked me to stop, ever. I know I'm not lying, idk bout you.

Besides, on the slight chance I even did something wrong, which is possible, I'm not going to be able to rest out my ban unless I have some physical proof that I did anything wrong, Despite the fact that I shouldn't be banned anyway cuz I was never warned, no one talked to me, nothing.

so yeah, get out these logs, if anything it will put my mind to rest. cuz right now this is total shit and lying to me.

You know what, forget it. I don't even care anymore.

1 - in past, before Trin joined JiP, I asked her billion times to join SoL. And she really wanted to. But someone made her not to. You are guessing right, that someone is you Ang. She didnt want to tell me much after each time I asked why she doesnt want to join but I kept asking until I squeezed it from her. She told me multiple times that you kept kicking into her often and even laming her. Trinity doesnt like you at all Ang, she doesnt because of how you behaved to her. And this is not a lie, I can get her to confirm all of this. Others were likely just too lenient with you that times.

2 - Ang dunno how about you but if I dont know how someone feels I ASK. It is NOT people's duty to tell you every time you bother them. Try to read between lines maybe? You NEED others to give you sign "clear as fking sun " ? Or are you just too blind to see it? You kicked often into me too and sometimes you stopped and sometimes not until you killed me and while I didnt say sometimes you to stop I said " " because I wasnt fond of it. For me, at your place it would be sign "clear as fking sun" to stop. Especially if it keeps happening.

3 - if you dont have a recall that someone asked you to stop, it doesnt mean they didnt.

4 - Ang if something happened with you I always had at least two different persons telling me you were annoying them or telling me that someone complained to them. This is this case too.

So yeah..

Angelis wrote:

yeah get out the fkin logs, I want to see this, cuz I am dead serious, she has never asked me to stop, ever. I know I'm not lying, idk bout you.

Angelis wrote:

so yeah, get out these logs, if anything it will put my mind to rest. cuz right now this is total shit and lying to me.

We are not lying to you and we are not accepting that allegation. After accusing us twice, a simple "forget it" doesn't make it up, so here is your proof.

Spoiler:

Those were some parts, where Mai has explicitly asked you to stop. I don't think it is necessary to post any of the more nasty things you said to Mai over the course of that evening.

Yodah is right, it shouldn't be up to others to tell you that you are being out of order in what you're saying. You should know that what you're saying to people isn't right. Someone shouldn't have to say 'stop' for you to stop, if someone is wishing you to leave the server so you will leave them alone, that's kind of a big hint.

In closing, we are keeping the ban active given the above evidence and the rest of the logs we reviewed and given that you admitted to harassing her for 4 years, and your version of 'light harassment' is everyone else's version of actual harassment.

For general information: Padawan4 and ^6My are both Angel, while ^7Ma^6i^3 ** is the real Mai.

Good job Epic

EpicJK2 wrote:

Angelis wrote:

yeah get out the fkin logs, I want to see this, cuz I am dead serious, she has never asked me to stop, ever. I know I'm not lying, idk bout you.

Angelis wrote:

so yeah, get out these logs, if anything it will put my mind to rest. cuz right now this is total shit and lying to me.

We are not lying to you and we are not accepting that allegation. After accusing us twice, a simple "forget it" doesn't make it up, so here is your proof.

Spoiler:

Those were some parts, where Mai has explicitly asked you to stop. I don't think it is necessary to post any of the more nasty things you said to Mai over the course of that evening.

Yodah is right, it shouldn't be up to others to tell you that you are being out of order in what you're saying. You should know that what you're saying to people isn't right. Someone shouldn't have to say 'stop' for you to stop, if someone is wishing you to leave the server so you will leave them alone, that's kind of a big hint.

In closing, we are keeping the ban active given the above evidence and the rest of the logs we reviewed and given that you admitted to harassing her for 4 years, and your version of 'light harassment' is everyone else's version of actual harassment.

For general information: Padawan4 and ^6My are both Angel, while ^7Ma^6i^3 ** is the real Mai.

the first two logs she was joking and the second one wasn't even directed at me.

Also if you look up in the logs for the third one I wasn't even talking to mai I was talking to cena. I never even said anything to mai. mai butted into my conversation.

stop taking things out of context epic.

You really need to take a step back and review your actions. Just replying with that BS when you know all 3 comments weren't jokes and were directed at you is kind of sad.

I'm not sure if you're in some kind of weird denial or you're just trying to shirk the blame, but only you are responsible for the comments you make.

And we have looked at the logs and your comments were directed at Mai.

Danek wrote:

danek but out of this this has nothing to do with you.


on another note.

THE first two logs, if you look about about 5-6 lines, she lamed me while I was chatting in both of them, twice, and about 4 more lines up she tells enel to lame me 3 times. so I killed her as a result and made the choke that I'd "rape" her again, if she did it again, I would say it to anyone else as well, it was my word choices

EpicJK2 wrote:

You really need to take a step back and review your actions. Just replying with that BS when you know all 3 comments weren't jokes and were directed at you is kind of sad.

I'm not sure if you're in some kind of weird denial or you're just trying to shirk the blame, but only you are responsible for the comments you make.

And we have looked at the logs and your comments were directed at Mai.

I'm not taking anything out of context, the first two if you look up she lamed me and asked enel to lame me, and the last one I was talking to cena, and she butted into the conversation it had nothing to do with her. stop lying epic.

Don't have a go at me, I'm only the messenger

Angelis wrote:

EpicJK2 wrote:

You really need to take a step back and review your actions. Just replying with that BS when you know all 3 comments weren't jokes and were directed at you is kind of sad.

I'm not sure if you're in some kind of weird denial or you're just trying to shirk the blame, but only you are responsible for the comments you make.

And we have looked at the logs and your comments were directed at Mai.

I'm not taking anything out of context, the first two if you look up she lamed me and asked enel to lame me, and the last one I was talking to cena, and she butted into the conversation it had nothing to do with her. stop lying epic.

Angel, I've literally just checked the logs now and she didn't ask Enel to lame you.

Do you even remember the stuff you say and the things you do?