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PostSubject: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Dec 2011, 12:01 am

First topic message reminder :

Over the last couple terms I have seen the same traits in the council. Lately we have had dwindling inactivity, and those who are active now (With the exception of Vader and a couple others), already hold administrative positions. The commoner seats always become vacant in one way or another, and I can't remember the last time where one of our leading council members was a commoner.

I think considering our situation of inevitable inactivity (comparing to earlier years), we need to make a smaller council, so it is more likely we will acheive active discussions and ball pushing in the clan. I propose that from the start of next term we have 5 council members, and not seven. One seat is open to a commoner and the remaining four seats are open to any administrative/moderator. I think despite our ideology of group representation the only group needing a good represenatation has been the people without the power, commoners, and over the last terms the dictate of having to choose two commoners results in their inactivity from council discussions.

I think a 5 man council (with a majority still being four or three approvals?), will mean more compact debates with a high likelyhood of a strong working team. Maintaining a seven man council when there simply aren't enough good and active candidates to take the seats will be fruitless, and will end up with me (or Xaso) just pushing all balls of discussion, which I feel I did this term, and what I don't want.

What do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 25 Dec 2011, 2:31 am

maybe we should split this in 2 polls. if the ppl think that 3 man in the council is too much of a triumvirate (a fear which even exists in a five man council... they still can build the majority to rule the other 2), then they shall choose a five man council. BUT i dont think it would be good that the 3 man council wins, just because the 5 man council voters are split into 3month terms and 6 month terms.
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 25 Dec 2011, 6:49 am

then make a vote which implies only the number of councellors
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 25 Dec 2011, 9:05 am

and then, if necessary, a poll with the choice over the term-time
yep, thats what i thought Smile
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 25 Dec 2011, 9:14 pm

Sounds good Smile So the poll will be between these:

Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
Three man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin. Six month term with unanimity decision rule, if one councillor disagrees it is denied or taken to the other members.

Five man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin, Two members from any background. Six month term with ability to re-elect should the need arise.

Or with all these 3:

Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
Three man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin. Six month term with unanimity decision rule, if one councillor disagrees it is denied or taken to the other members.

Five man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin, Two members from any background. Six month term with ability to re-elect should the need arise.

Five man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin, Two members from any background. Three month term with ability to re-elect should the need arise.



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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 25 Dec 2011, 9:21 pm

Agreed on that.
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 12:32 am

yes kind like that.
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 1:34 am

Quote :

Five man council - One commoner, One server admin, One forum admin, Two members from any background. Six month term with ability to re-elect should the need arise.

Fine. Nick's "we'd have a month of elections followed by two months without" argument sounds believable, it'd be much too busy.

Tim_Skywalker wrote:
It's dying with that kind of attitude Iggy. Now please say something funny.

I... can't... ;_;
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 6:57 am

YOU HAVE TO IGGY!!! THATS WHAT FUELS THE CLAN!!!
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 11:02 am

Xaso wrote:
triumvirate

1st or 2nd?
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 11:04 am

either. one brought caesar, one brought augustus. and both destroyed the republic.
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 26 Dec 2011, 11:06 am

Well I'll shotgun Anthony ^_^ At least I get a queen Very Happy EGYPTION QUEENS! Very Happy
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^^ damn... best choice
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Dec 2011, 5:32 am

so what we go on ? A vote ? or a "council decision?" ? xD
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A vote. All members should be a part of this decision.
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PostSubject: Re: A council reformation proposal   A council reformation proposal - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Dec 2011, 9:52 pm

Member vote.
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