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mereel Sith Warrior
Posts : 2440
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Thu 21 Nov 2013, 9:16 am | |
| Yes, just text is hard to read for emotions, but their actions speak a thousand words.
W/e, I think this topic is done anyway. It seems people have learn what was done wrong, hopefully it won't happen again. But if it does, people will hopefully remember what is the right thing to do next time.
Now if you don't mind I am going back into my dark abyss. | |
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Battledroidlover Sith Lord
Posts : 5188
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Thu 21 Nov 2013, 9:19 am | |
| We still need clarity on if Alex is still leaving or not ? Oh, uhm... have fun down there | |
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Alex Jedi Padawan
Posts : 469
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:26 am | |
| - Battledroidlover wrote:
- We still need clarity on if Alex is still leaving or not ?
Oh, uhm... have fun down there I have left.. but so i can return you need to stop acting like a fly a kite douche bag... | |
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Battledroidlover Sith Lord
Posts : 5188
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 6:47 am | |
| I've already said that I meant no bad intentions. | |
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Alex Jedi Padawan
Posts : 469
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:13 am | |
| - Battledroidlover wrote:
- I've already said that I meant no bad intentions.
then ill take that as a yes. So i guess i have to rejoin now. | |
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Phoenix Sith Warrior
Posts : 4357
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:37 am | |
| then...... welcome back. | |
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NickdeClaw Legend
Posts : 3119
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:54 am | |
| Since Alex confirmed that he had left, we need to have a returning Member poll. Alex was Yellow Flame, right? | |
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KingYodah Legend
Posts : 7342
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:57 am | |
| @nick, ye he was yellow | |
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Battledroidlover Sith Lord
Posts : 5188
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:58 am | |
| - Alex wrote:
- Battledroidlover wrote:
- I've already said that I meant no bad intentions.
then ill take that as a yes. So i guess i have to rejoin now. Good | |
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Phoenix Sith Warrior
Posts : 4357
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 8:35 am | |
| - NickdeClaw wrote:
- Since Alex confirmed that he had left, we need to have a returning Member poll. Alex was Yellow Flame, right?
I think this would be a harsh move as his leaving wasn't really finalised in any way, he is still ranked and membered on all our boards, and his topic was was more a plea for help and attention rather than disregard for the clan or the members. He just wanted some support and understanding and we have given him it. I can forgive him for this outburst as he's been a good member in all his past, and feel comfortable giving him Yellow flame back without further thought. Of course if people don't agree with me then we need to go to poll... | |
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Zelah
Posts : 2238
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 8:36 am | |
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Danek
Posts : 1466
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 8:44 am | |
| I also agree with Phoe, it was only a few days ago, would be harsh on him | |
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NickdeClaw Legend
Posts : 3119
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 8:50 am | |
| We made this change to the rules for a reason. We agreed that if someone leaves, they instantly lose one rank. He explicitly stated that he was no longer in the clan, and that he needed to rejoin. Not having a poll would be wrong, and defeats the purpose of the long discussion we had about returning Members. Part of the decision we reached in that discussion was based on the fact that we didn't want to be too harsh. The instant rank removal was part of that compromise and needs to be honored, or it loses its value as a deterrent to leaving. | |
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KingYodah Legend
Posts : 7342
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 9:31 am | |
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Zelah
Posts : 2238
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 9:36 am | |
| Ya I suppose. If that's the case no lower than green I think | |
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Kernow Pilgrim Legend
Posts : 10648
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:35 pm | |
| Thanks for the contribution Mereel, was good that you surfaced for the old and great words of wisdom you do so often pull together.
Seeing Alex on the server with his tag on this evening made me query what was going on. Now I am fully updated on what I agree to be a trivial reason to leave the clan. I also strongly support the use of a returning member poll here, precisely these reasons is why we made the rule. The compromise of an immediate one rank deduction is valid here.
The question remains what rank Alex is voted to return with. Alex if you have shown any empathy with Mereel's statement and would like to explain anything you think you may have communicated wrongly now would be the time so I can treat this as a one off error and support you retaining the highest possible rank, as opposed to this becoming catalyst for deeper assessment. BDL apologised and I think something alike would be appreciated from all of us. | |
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Light Legend
Posts : 1430
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:04 pm | |
| - Kernow Pilgrim wrote:
- Alex if you have shown any empathy with Mereel's statement and would like to explain anything you think you may have communicated wrongly now would be the time so I can treat this as a one off error and support you retaining the highest possible rank, as opposed to this becoming catalyst for deeper assessment. BDL apologised and I think something alike would be appreciated from all of us.
Same here. | |
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Samfp
Posts : 249
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:22 pm | |
| I'm sorry but I don't see why BDL is the one getting grilled here. I witnessed this incident and Alex has no right to act the way he has and it not face any kind of acknowledgement, judging by what happened it's extremely unfair to expect BDL to be responsible for Alex's immature actions. In no way is he responsible for Alex's own emotions and everyone seems to be oblivious to Alex being downright rude and disrespectful toward BDL: - Alex wrote:
- Just proves that he only gives a fly a kite about himself and would help bastards rather than clan members.
- Alex wrote:
- want to act like douchebags
- Alex wrote:
- you need to stop acting like a fly a kite douche bag...
To add: during this incident at no point did Alex ask BDL not to intervene clearly and I'm surprised you've gone about this in such an underhand way. I know it's not my place to say but I thought better of you as a player and this reaction really surprises me, me and Sanyo were ganging you at FY and it didn't seem to bother you at all, you took it in your stride. I wonder if this has anything to do with a personal issue with BDL that needs to be resolved? | |
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Kernow Pilgrim Legend
Posts : 10648
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:27 pm | |
| I merged your post Sam.
BDL isn't getting grilled here Sam, at least I didn't see that. We're deciding what rank to have Alex back into SoL after leaving the clan. I am waiting to hear his response Mereel and others who have compromised. | |
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Xasomur
Posts : 13101
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 2:52 am | |
| I'd like to grill BDL. | |
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Vader Sith Warrior
Posts : 4359
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 3:09 am | |
| WEEWOOWEEWOO XASO SPAM WEEWOOWEEWOO
XDD | |
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KingYodah Legend
Posts : 7342
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 3:13 am | |
| WEEWOOWEEWOO VADER SPAM WEEWOOWEEWOO okay im finished Im glad alex is staying | |
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Vader Sith Warrior
Posts : 4359
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 3:16 am | |
| Well how else are you supposed to indicate spam without being spam itself? D: Anyways wb Alex. (you're guaranteed membership, however the votes are very close) | |
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Alex Jedi Padawan
Posts : 469
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 4:47 am | |
| - Samfp wrote:
- I'm sorry but I don't see why BDL is the one getting grilled here. I witnessed this incident and Alex has no right to act the way he has and it not face any kind of acknowledgement, judging by what happened it's extremely unfair to expect BDL to be responsible for Alex's immature actions. In no way is he responsible for Alex's own emotions and everyone seems to be oblivious to Alex being downright rude and disrespectful toward BDL:
- Alex wrote:
- Just proves that he only gives a fly a kite about himself and would help bastards rather than clan members.
- Alex wrote:
- want to act like douchebags
- Alex wrote:
- you need to stop acting like a fly a kite douche bag...
To add: during this incident at no point did Alex ask BDL not to intervene clearly and I'm surprised you've gone about this in such an underhand way. I know it's not my place to say but I thought better of you as a player and this reaction really surprises me, me and Sanyo were ganging you at FY and it didn't seem to bother you at all, you took it in your stride.
I wonder if this has anything to do with a personal issue with BDL that needs to be resolved? The reason for my immature behavior is because i couldn't control my anger lately, which was caused from real life (evolving mostly around school). I have taken some anger management advice from different people and hopefully i control over all (most i hope) my anger now. When you ganged me on FY i didn't find it challenging and found it annoying since i was one person and you had Sanyo to help but i didn't get angry, at the time i really didn't care about ffaing. I hope this answers your question. | |
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Alex Jedi Padawan
Posts : 469
| Subject: Re: Leaving the clan for real this time. Sat 23 Nov 2013, 4:53 am | |
| - Alex wrote:
- Samfp wrote:
- I'm sorry but I don't see why BDL is the one getting grilled here. I witnessed this incident and Alex has no right to act the way he has and it not face any kind of acknowledgement, judging by what happened it's extremely unfair to expect BDL to be responsible for Alex's immature actions. In no way is he responsible for Alex's own emotions and everyone seems to be oblivious to Alex being downright rude and disrespectful toward BDL:
- Alex wrote:
- Just proves that he only gives a fly a kite about himself and would help bastards rather than clan members.
- Alex wrote:
- want to act like douchebags
- Alex wrote:
- you need to stop acting like a fly a kite douche bag...
To add: during this incident at no point did Alex ask BDL not to intervene clearly and I'm surprised you've gone about this in such an underhand way. I know it's not my place to say but I thought better of you as a player and this reaction really surprises me, me and Sanyo were ganging you at FY and it didn't seem to bother you at all, you took it in your stride.
I wonder if this has anything to do with a personal issue with BDL that needs to be resolved? The reason for my immature behavior is because i couldn't control my anger lately, which was caused from real life (evolving mostly around school). I have taken some anger management advice from different people and hopefully i control over all (most i hope) my anger now. When you ganged me on FY i didn't find it challenging and found it annoying since i was one person and you had Sanyo to help but i didn't get angry, at the time i really didn't care about ffaing. I hope this answers your question. I forgot to mention now that i look at the posts i realized that it was my fault for getting angry in the first place. But as i said (hope i don't sound like a douche) i had anger issues from real life and couldn't control my anger and for that i apologize. | |
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