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PostSubject: The Neo nazis is back   Sun 14 Nov 2010, 6:30 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Tue 16 Nov 2010, 2:57 pm

My god...right now, i couldn't be more disintrested in this subject...

USA nearly didnt come to war, and if it wasnt for the japanesse probably wouldnt have, i wonder what would have happened if they didnt. Blow on your own trumpets all you want. When all others crumbled, Great Britain was the rock that wouldnt be broken. I dont know what we would have been without winston churchill, man that guy had balls. I think the whole world owes him a dept.

"We shall fight in the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, fight in the fields, and in the streets. WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!"

I get goosebumbs just thinking about that speech. He gave everybody the heart and spirt and will to fight. Without him, the world might me a very different place today.

Isnt it a shocking thought. Today i can log onto a computer and go and fight against xasomur on server. 70 years ago i would have been wielding a gun, or climbing into an aircraft and going to fight xasomur in the war and try to kill him, and xaso would be trying to kill me. If i didnt, i would have been considered a coward and given social rebuke, if xasomur didnt try to kill me, he would have been killed by his commander or sergent or whoever for neglect of duty and refusal to fight for his fatherland and furher.

Lads as young as 16 where fighting and dying in the war, what an unimaginable thought...
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Tue 16 Nov 2010, 8:42 pm

Is "dept" an acceptable spelling of "debt" in the UK? I've seen it a bunch of times in the past week on these forums but I can't find any information about it online.
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Wed 17 Nov 2010, 12:38 am

No, we just cant spell for dog shit Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Wed 17 Nov 2010, 5:50 am

Actually without CHAMBERLAIN the world would be a completely different place (In Britain anyway...)

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Wed 17 Nov 2010, 11:08 am

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the usa did not ask for or want war. those decisions were made in your country my friend.

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yes. and it was a economic blessing for the usa. Wink
and then as the tables turned, the usa was and is asking for wars... the question is why :>
and still... autobiographies are one of the least responsable sources i'd use alone, without other sources.
and still: usa has a bigger problem with nazism than germany and many many other countries have. i dont say they have problems with nazis more. but the danger of nazism is closer... at least in my opinion. this may be a matter of perspective. but no one in germany, who had some brain, was thinking that hitler is a real problem, and that ppl would actually follow him.

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Wed 17 Nov 2010, 11:41 am

on iraq:

saddam invaded another country. post war he continually violated the agreements that were signed to end gulf I


on afghanistan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfYmBCzIOo&feature=related


this says enough. you think usa wasn't an economic power without hitler. lol

autobiographies are great resources. the person writing it may be honest, or not. they may be accurate, inaccurate, or have accidental inaccuracies. the thing about autobiographies is it lets you get into the person's mind who wrote it. gives you an idea of what they are all about.

on hitler, he was a powerful speaker. intellects in Germany made a big mistake. by the time they realized he was taking power it was too late. what intellects need to realize is that they are a minority. the majority do not see, or comprehend, things with the same lens. the discontented majority in Germany, at the time, were ripe for hitler to pick.

1. pissed off bout ww1
2. hyperinflation
3. depression

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 4:38 am

lol... i dont say usa wasnt an economic power. i said it was an economic blessing...

and you obviously really believe in that. but its one of the biggest hypocricity of our time. usa selling weapons and supporting dictatorships all over the world. and then somewhen they start playing the defender of humanity and democracy for all the world.
but if the us really were, they would do the same for the countries of south america... oh noes, i forgot... no oil there :X
but economy isnt the only reason why usa likes to make war... sometimes they do it out of their hate towards socialism... if so they even head for asia and south american too... but as long as no dictator there is a socialist, he can do whatever he wants (as long as its not about the oil)

and what you say about the intellectuals of germany count for usa too.
and germany was not the only country with nazism. italy, japan and spain as well. and usa shows some more similarities with italy than with germany. they all have in common, that their economy was a major mess, so that their middle class was dying.
yea... and the us?

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 4:45 am

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and you obviously really believe in that. but its one of the biggest hypocricity of our time. usa selling weapons and supporting dictatorships all over the world. and then somewhen they start playing the defender of humanity and democracy for all the world.
but if the us really were, they would do the same for the countries of south america... oh noes, i forgot... no oil there :X
but economy isnt the only reason why usa likes to make war... sometimes they do it out of their hate towards socialism... if so they even head for asia and south american too... but as long as no dictator there is a socialist, he can do whatever he wants (as long as its not about the oil)
I hope you do realize that we talk about this in the U.S. all the time. I can't tell you how many conversations I've had about this. The majority of people understand the oil point, but I will grant you that few Americans understand the dictators point; it is a topic discussed primarily in college, and even then only in majors such as political science or history. I would probably not know about it if not for my girlfriend being a political science major.
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 5:27 am

Britain was almost a facist nation if Oswald has succeeded to power. You all forget THAT would've changed the evolution of European nazism.

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 6:05 am

@ nick
doesnt that make it even more ridiculous?
but you see that wehr put it in a totally different light. and such lines came from bush too, and thats what goes around the world.

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 6:18 am

I think you make fair points, Xaso, but you exaggerate them. That's all.
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 10:08 am

maybe i do... but the discrepancy between the all too arrogant attitude and the issues the usa has to deal with is upsetting me :S so yea, its my personal perspective

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 11:42 am

Nick, the funny thing is Xaso is arrogant but he gets mad when someone else is arrogant. Xaso, just admit you love the usa and you love english. then we can all be happy.

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 11:53 am

oh xaso, there is oil in south america. lots of it. did you ever hear of citgo (in Venezuela) or petrobras (in Brasil). in usa we don't import much oil from the gulf. most of that goes to europe. we do, however, import a great deal from venezuela. so i guess we were in iraq to supply oil to europe.

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 1:01 pm

lol, im arrogant and i can admit that. but you obviously need to cover something and you get touchy.
the more input to this topic the less i like the usa btw. i never liked the country with the highest crime rate, and which built a wall to keep out the mexicans, though building walls is something they learned from the gdr. the land with such a bad health care and so many natural disasters... im too happy here where i am...

im countin the days til the war with venezuela starts, and awaitin the excuse you will give me for that. "oh this chavez was a bad boy... our oil comes from brasil and the gulf..."

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 1:21 pm

i don't believe you xaso. lol

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PS- what wall? LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 3:38 pm

I think most citizens of Western countries are happy with where they're living and would tend to say they prefer it over other options. Based on the limited exposure I've had to various European countries' cultures, I tend to prefer USA's societal trends when it comes to things like equality and I would rather live here than in Europe. There are certain issues on which the U.S. teeters toward making choices that might change my view, and if certain things were to happen in the near future I might consider moving to some place like Canada or England. But for the time being, based on my knowledge of other countries, USA is my top choice.

Also, I call major shenanigans on your various negative claims about USA, Xaso. You sir, are a troll! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 3:47 pm

Xasomur wrote:

im countin the days til the war with venezuela starts, and awaitin the excuse you will give me for that. "oh this chavez was a bad boy... our oil comes from brasil and the gulf..."





If that happens, i think that its gonna be like vietnam war for usa.. venezuela is gonna be a hard opponent





And dont forget the future war for the water to south american countries
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 4:03 pm

ENGLAND FTW NICK! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Thu 18 Nov 2010, 10:28 pm

my point though, anyone studying a language usually picks up some affinity for the countries that speak it. i don't believe xaso dislikes the usa a bit. anyway, if xaso doesn't like the usa at least merkel does.

sebb, don't worry he's just spouting off stuff now. we don't care about chavez. i think most people in world know communism doesn't work.

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PS- again, what wall??
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Fri 19 Nov 2010, 2:05 am

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PS- again, what wall??

I think hes just taking about the perimeter fencing on the boarder and the "no mans land" that seperates mexico and usa.
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Fri 19 Nov 2010, 2:19 am

i'm a viking i robber, fight and rape ^^
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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Fri 19 Nov 2010, 3:42 am

i wasnt learning english because i like usa so much, its part of my education.
and then we learned more about the english --> british history and culture... not much though, but america was of lower interest :>

communism could work, no one tried it... a dictatorship cant afford that... it will lead to stalinism. and communism is not the same as stalinism nor the same like socialism.

and this may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Mexico_wall

and that merkel makes you believe she likes the usa is something good Razz

and maybe that u think this is trolling, but in fact, wehr is asking for those statements

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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Fri 19 Nov 2010, 4:47 am

uh, it's a fence xaso. and it is not along the whole border with mexico. anyone can clearly see it's a fence. maybe you should compare pics of our fences and the old pics of berlin wall. also, you don't get shot for crossing it. the fences are only in highly trafficked illegal crossing areas. but if you think it's wrong to not let illegal aliens into your country maybe we can start program with Germany and send them to you.

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ps- just cuz you don't like me don't pretend you're not interested in usa. i still don't believe you. lol


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PostSubject: Re: The Neo nazis is back   Fri 19 Nov 2010, 5:21 am

Article for Xaso. So he can learn what a wall is:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
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