Split ATS: Detailed Events from January 2nd to March 7th

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(Editors Note)Main Events of thread:

*Hostility from the 8 active ATS supporting Outcast - Outcast, Max, Argentino, Kyle, Ulrich, Herny, Sylba and ErroronE. (Reactions from both sides included)

*Herny's intention to hire a hacker to remove Democratic ATS/SoL's forums. (Reactions from both sides included)

*Abrum's deletions of mods from ATS server in support of the democracy.

*Xasomur quotes Outcast insulting the democratic ATS and refusing to beleive their community existance. Hyprocisy and Lies of the Pro-Outcast faction here (Reactions included.)

*The lag wars of both factions - Mereel's honest perspective of what happened.

*Herny bans all accounts of mainspeaker Democratic ATS from Outcast's forums. Silencing the opinions of others in the dictatorship.

*Examples of how Pro-Outcast faction bring up a new generation of recruits taught to irrationally hate others. (Note Nick's response in how to deal with these people).

*Germo is found to already have been turned against democratic ATS and Kyle Katarn abuses players with no consequences.

*Outcast censors 'KernowPilgrim' and the Democratic ATS website address. Trying to silence those who go against his grain.

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Ok guys i thought I would make this topic public to show everyone both member and visitor. I doubt Outcast himself will notice this, when was the last time he paid a visit to any other server or forum other than his own?!

Well this is just an update to the situation. The situation the division of ATS: the old conservatives sticking to Outcast's ruthless dictatorship, or the new and shining democrats who opt for equality and respect amongst ALL players. The conservatives themselves are a minority as it was just Herny (for vested intrests), Max (for fear of loss of power), Kyle (the gimp), Sylba (old and against change) and Outcast (inconsolable and extremist) who decided not to change the old system. To avoid Outcasts grip of power we created our own new ATS forum and server, whilst the old five are without a forum but have their abandoned and rarely administrated server.

Herny has employed (yes employed as he has actually PAYING this guy), a hacker in his local school to come and shut down/delete this forum, hopefully to cause internal chaos to the new ATS and destroy our organisation. He ISN'T acting under Outcast's or Max's orders and he personally sees us as rebels who falsly use the ATS name, his main problem is the our use of the name ATS. And due to this he aims to oblitirate us, and i'm sure if the oppertunity for cancelling the server arises to him he will capitalise on it.

Outcast has also just released a new forum, one that he has been working on or some time to make it fun and appealing to 9 yr old newbies etc......The good news is this server and forum has the majority of ATS members which means that typing "ATS JK2" in google presents this forum as the top link. Lets hope it stays this way.

There is of course confusion, Outcast's server entitles: "..................ATS" and our much more active and fun version called: "....................~". Many newbies are heading to the ATS server and being told its the real one, only to come to ours and hear the same thing, so of course they are very confused. We want Outcast to join us or give up the name of ATS to its true inheritors (those who kept and keep it alive during his and the founders absences. And they want us to do the same thing. Its is a stalemate on either sides so of course you can see the need for extremist behaviour like Herny's.

I am just warning all supporters of our system (the ones who give the power to you) that IF the server and/or forum closes down DO NOT lose hope - We will rebuild another server and forum just like we did before when Outcast wiped everything.

I do not like people keeping secrets from the clan, I made a public statement to exemplify this moral. To warn, to prepere and to inspire you all.

~K.P

@herny, please mate, just stop with the abuse. We dont go on your forum and say stuff like this, we just want to be left alone.

@Mereel. We'll im going to be honest, you did the wrong thing i guess but im not without understanding for you. I dont like kyle at all, not one little bit.

He is a gimp who kisses outcasts ass and thinks he is awesome because of it, and he talks down to, and patronises all who are below him. (the guys here can confirm that he started having a go at me one time for no reason when i first appied for ATS). So where kyle comes in im in full understanding for u because the that guy is total bell end!

Anyways ok, i think this isnt sooooo bad if it stops here, u realise you mistake and you apologise which is the big thing to do. It takes alot for some people to openly come out, put there hands up, and say im sorry it was me. So yes u did go a little far but the fact that you take responsibillity for your actions and show remorse means that you have handled things maturely and you keep your respect for that.

I understand, it was heat of the moment, you were pissed off. When things like this happen sometimes you (and we all) do things which are against your better judgement and regret them later. We have all done it in life, nobody can say they have never done things wrong or they regret before because of being angry. Everybody does things when they are pissed off that they later wished they havent.

The best thing to do (and what i usually do) is to take a break, go for some fresh air, think things over, and cool off. So maybe in future if (hopefully not) this ever happens again you should do this instead of making rash decisions to lag people out. But raven can take part of the responsibillity for that.

But dont worry about it, you were angry and im sure everybody can understand that. And them guys (kyle ect) we winding you up and adding fuel to the fire, it doesnt make your actions right, but it does make them understandable.

We can all show empathy to what has happened here because at some point in our lives we have been in the same position. So dont worry about it, just learn from it.

And as you have come out and apologised about it, then as long as i doesnt happen again im sure that we are all shweet!. So dont worry about it mate and thanks for owning up.

Your friend Phoenix

lol... kyle insults and lames... like always xD he did it before, and he called it his "work" to kill the "lamers" ^^
but there are some things kyle just dont understand... he is not even worth a reply

and hery always seems to be at the wrong play on the wrong time xD

lol... btw herny, do u remember your voting abuse, here? mhh... grab ur own nose to find the abuse xD

but id like to be out of this for some days, as i cant write any constructive posts anymore :O the reason maybe is that i always thought ats was about fair play and respect, but i seem to fail on that ...

kernow and phoenix are doing good jobs , when im cooled down a bit i maybe help out again

The only one who say me shut up is my Mother , asshole

im sick of all this fake thing

Herny STFU man rly u dont know even a thing abotu a clan , about morals, admin or even server configuration so why dont u better change name?? cause ure just losing your time now go away kid and stop saying stupid stuf.. and also learn to play dont use admin..abusers -.-'

Dont worry mereel i understand u cause this a part of the "old Outcast ATS" was always happening empowering noobs that killed everyone and cried wwhen pwned...i was always against that attitude but Outcast didnt mind..here is the result..kids with no experience arguing no sense stuff.. of things they dont even know how they work.. so yeah herny save your comments and go to you server we wont quit...so just go to bed

A MI NO ME DECIS CALLATE ME ENTENDES ?¿ EN TODO CASO CALLATE VOS PELOTUDO

lol... he just said, dont tell me to shut up... so just u shut up...

loly xD

I did it kernow

i might be lying,but i got on Out's forum..

SPARGO ?

you are admin? and u found the ban function and thought: yep, outcast does it just like breathing... let me try...

superb

i don't mean to sound stupid,but Xaso is the Bomb

dsg

dgsghsdh

hmm it appears herny has lost it

he just has an epileptic shock or something like that... so he is randomly pressing keys... someone get a doctor -.-

does that mean i owned him xaso? if i did let's duel after sometime cuz i get my computer 2morrow xD

doesnt mean anything... no need to pollute this topic further... u wanted to chat wolfe... u can now ^^

YEAH YEAHH YEAH I DIDNT LOST NOTHING STUPID LIL KID

u misspelled lol dude xD



@ herny try not to go crazy

fuck you

and fuck you again

fuck you 1 more time